maggielassie: Hello, I am maggielassie, a writer of Xena/Gabrielle fan fiction
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… we can begin the introductions and get this party started!
maggielassie: Already introduced myself
maggielassie: Want me to do it again?
Stacicle: Hi All!! Xena Lives!!!
Texbard: Hi, I’m Linda Crist/Texbard. I write X&G fic, a few stories from other fandoms, and a fair amount of original fic.
SFM24: Hi Maggie, Gin and Linda *waves*
Gin Akasarahsmom: there should be one more panelist… Lori1273?
maggielassie: As I said, I am maggielassie, a writer of Xena/Gabrielle femslash.
Loridav: Hi, I’m Lori. I hosted the Writer’s Studio, and have a blog, Xena: Renaissance Warrior.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Jenny Frame sends her regrets as a last minute emergency called her away…
Texbard: Hey everyone.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Excellent!
Gin Akasarahsmom: so if anyone has any questions, please raise your hand and we’ll get to you in the order your hand was raised
maggielassie: Hey everyone! Hi Lori.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’ll start off, for everyone on the panel… What got you interested in this fandom?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Maggie?
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… Linda? Lori? Anyone? LOL What got you interested in this fandom?
Texbard: Our local lgbt bookstore had slim pickings so I went online. This was around 1997 or so. Xena was about all there was online for lesfic at that time. I found the fan fiction and then started watching the show.
maggielassie: I had missed most of XWP when it was on, unfortunately. But in recent years some lesbian friends recommended me it. Bought the whole DVD boxset and fell in love. Wanted to write some Xena/Gabrielle stories not long after that.
Loridav: At first it was Xena being a fierce female warrior, then it became the relationship that was developing between X&G.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Nice… so I’m assuming that Xena/Gabrielle would be most of our favorite pairing
Gin Akasarahsmom: what are some of the more offbeat pairings from this show?
Loridav: Mine for sure. I have but one mistress, and her name is Xena.
Loridav: Joxer and Meg.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… nice. the thought of Joxer with anyone kinda makes me shudder
maggielassie: @ Lori re Xena
Texbard: X&G for me as well.
Texbard: I’ve read some Ares/X and Joxer/Gab a long time ago.
Alkmaion: Hmm….I have Xena on my desk(DVDs), yet to look into it and approach this world…though I´m a greek mythology fan…hmm…eh…did I raise my hand accordingly?
maggielassie: X&G favourite. Xena/LaoMa was interesting also.
Gin Akasarahsmom: What do you think contributes to the longevity of the Xena fandom?
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL.. actually no you didn’t raise your hand.. but I’ll let it slide.
alannasky: meow i cant say though i do want to see a pair being try out and that is gab/mlila ….it would be good to see how it will work
Loridav: What did you think about those parings, Texbard?
Texbard: We built our fandom online at the time the internet was taking off …
maggielassie: Maybe the lesbian theme has got something to do with the ongoing XWP worship, from lesbians at least.
Texbard: Lori, the Ares/X was well-written, but not my thing other than they wrote Xena very well …
Texbard: Joxer/Gab is strange.
Texbard: Strange to me because I never saw any chemistry at all between them.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Joxer with anyone is weird to me… he’s nice.. but too goofy
maggielassie: I saw the best chemistry between Gabrielle and Xena.
Loridav: Yeah, Joxer is the sidekick’s sidekick.
Gin Akasarahsmom: what do you think about that Lori… do you think the internet had a lot to do with the longevity of the Xena fandom?
Texbard: Yes, and so much of that due to the chemistry between Lucy and Renee.
Alkmaion: May I say that the longlivety partially is to our fascination with Greek/Roman mythology and folklore?
Gin Akasarahsmom: possibly Alkmaion… but most of the stuff in Xena is only loosely based on myth… most of it is totally made up for the show
Texbard: I think part of the longevity is that we’ve become this huge online family.
Loridav: Well, Gin, I think it has more to do with Xena being pure inspiration. People who had never written a word of dialog found themselves compelled to write something about the dark-haired woman, and her lady fair.
Gin Akasarahsmom: you had… I just didn’t see your hand up for a minute..
maggielassie: I don’t think Gabrielle ever felt anything for Joxer except as friend, and that’s how I wrote it in my own fanfic at one point: Joxer had a thing for Gabrielle but it was not reciprocated. gabrielle only had eyes for Xena.
Loridav: Lucy and Renee were so good at playing those rolls that I’ve heard of people looking for Xena in history books!
maggielassie: LOL indeed.
Gin Akasarahsmom: She’s part of Pop Culture history for sure
Loridav: Maggie, how’s that uber coming along?
alannasky: meow i did that when i was little…looking for her name
Gin Akasarahsmom: whoops.. Tassiedevil7 has a question… go ahead Tassie
tassiedevil7: what do you guys think of conqueror fics? how does that fit in within the xena online family?
Gin Akasarahsmom: did you get Tassie’s quesion Maggie?
Loridav: I love them! Gin, I loved your version of the conqueror. She was impressively unique. Giving Xena different personalities was brilliant! And having them all, even the dark one, love Gabrielle was incredibly romantic.
Gin Akasarahsmom: *bowing* thank you Lori… I’m glad you enjoyed them
Texbard: I love a good conqueror fic. One of my favs is by LJ Maas – Journey’s End.
Texbard: Writing conqueror is pretty fun, too.
tassiedevil7: Gin, what is the name of your conqueror fic?
Gin Akasarahsmom: multiple personalities was the only way I could think of to let Xena be as ruthless as she needed to be to rule the world and as gentle as I wanted her to be with Gabrielle…
Gin Akasarahsmom: there are three… Negotiations is first… then Complications.. then Invitations…
Gin Akasarahsmom: it’s all basically one big story though.. and I mean BIG!
Alkmaion: How many words?
maggielassie: I am sorry. I am not into much of the Conqueror fic (let’s please not argue, some people just don’t like it coz of sexual violence) but I would like to write my own Conq fic that would fit my own standards as I still did like Planet-solin’s and Melissa Good’s work in the Conq genre.
Loridav: I liked your conqueror story, Texbard. Destiny Conquered had a pretty hot opening!
Gin Akasarahsmom: no sexual violence in mine Maggie.
Texbard: LOL. Thanks. That opening was based on a dare.
tassiedevil7: (sorry gin, im googling and cant find it, do you have a link?)
Gin Akasarahsmom: No..they’re listed on the Ausxip site.. in the bard’s corner under Gin
maggielassie: @ Gin, ha, okay, I’ll give it a shot. What is it called? And is it published under the name Gin or another?
tassiedevil7: well, thats an interesting point, how does the power imbalance in conq fics play out? and do you see a power imbalance in canon, particularly in earlier seasons?
Texbard: I think it took them a while to figure out where they were going with Gabrielle …
Texbard: Whether she was going to be just a funny sidekick or something more …
Gin Akasarahsmom: power imbalance is always an issue with early Xena stuff.. because Xena is so experienced and Gabrielle isn’t.. but as the series goes on, we see that Gabrielle has a way of balancing Xena’s issues
Gin Akasarahsmom: Maggie has a question..
maggielassie: What is the title of your Conq story, Gin?
Gin Akasarahsmom: the first one is titled “Negotiations”
maggielassie: Thanks, I’ll give it a shot sometime.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… Linda.. I think they had a bit of a surprise on their hands, when Gabrielle became more than a sidekick
Gin Akasarahsmom: the show started out as Xena’s redemption story.. but quickly became the story of Gabrielle’s journey
Texbard: The subtext helped a lot, even though it was accidental at first …
Texbard: Yes, exactly – they were equals by the end.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep… the passing of the chakram showed that
Texbard: And Joxer actually helped in that he became the comic sidekick so that they could move Gabrielle’s role to something more serious.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Maggie has a question… go ahead Maggie
maggielassie: What about Classic X/G femslash? What kind of X/G Classic femslash do people like here?
Gin Akasarahsmom: what kind?
maggielassie: Classic (not Conqueror)
Gin Akasarahsmom: I didn’t know there were different kinds of classic though… how do you separate them?
Loridav: I like my classic X&G to have the ladies already in a relationship, or very close to it. That way I can follow the adventure, and not focus on will they, or won’t they? I love the March 16 series!
Texbard: Aw, thanks!
Texbard: I love a good story as well as romance.
maggielassie: I mean the kind of X/G femslash that’s not a Conq or an Uber. Okay, I’ll start. I quite liked BL Miller’s, Rebecca Hall, My OSage’s, Jenbob’s (A Fine Line), Patricia L. Givens’ work and many more.
Gin Akasarahsmom: ah… established relationship fics… I tend to like the ones that actually get them together…
Texbard: Rebecca Hall’s Heaven Down Here was the first X&G fic I read – very special place in my heart for that one.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Alkmaion… you have a question?
Loridav: LJ Maas’ Queen Series is good one.
maggielassie: @ Lori, I think you’d like my Seasonal Passion series. They’re already in a relationship in it and I tried to portray how their relationship evolved season after season.
Alkmaion: In the beginning, Xena was taking place in a mythological setting, in an determined time…later they had Caesar as a character, putting the series in a distinct historic frame…did this hurt the series in your opinion?
Alma0_0: and Gina Dart excellent
Texbard: It didn’t for me. I was amused by Xena showing up all over history.
Gin Akasarahsmom: nah… they jumped all around the timeline…
Loridav: Hmm, I don’t think so. Caesar made me understand some of Xena’s ruthlessness. Some people think it was the death of her brother that sent her over the edge. But it was Caesar.
maggielassie: @Textbard, I totally agree with you re: Heaven Down Here.
alannasky: i agree Lori
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… in “Tsunami” Mt. Etna erupted… that is a VERY specific date… so I don’t think it hurt anything…
Alkmaion: Ah, I see. Thanks Loridav.
Loridav: I;m gonna read your series, Maggie. How’s that uber going?
Texbard: That one got me hooked on all the rest. One of my all-time favs is DJWP’s Seven Days in Pompeii
Gin Akasarahsmom: we’ve all had those days ravenfairy
maggielassie: Heaven Down Here is my favourite first time story, but I never wrote first-time stories myself. I wanted to do something different (showing the evolution of the X/G relationship in my SP series). My Uber will be a first time one though, of course.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Tassie has a question
tassiedevil7: what is it about xena and gab that makes writers what to put them in all kind of different time zones and situations with their ubers? what is it about these characters? or are they just good representations of butch/femme?
maggielassie: @Lori, I’m all excited about the Uber. Gathered all the pieces together about what I’m gonna write and gonna start the writing on Monday. If you read my SP series, let me know.
Loridav: I started out reading every classic X&G I could find, then I ran across Ali Vali’s How Do You Mend A Broken A Heart, and I became an uber addict!
Texbard: Tassie, for me it was just a desire to write a story that was my own.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah.. Tassie.. I think that the couple is just a good pairing…
Gin Akasarahsmom: you say butch/femme.. but which one is which… because I think Xena is way more femme, at times, than Gabrielle… then other times.. not so much
Loridav: Linda, are you ever going to post the third story in your Bluest in Eyes in Texas series on the net?
Texbard: Lori, I want to split it into two stories, so probably not anytime soon. What I’ll likely do is post the one story online and publish the two separate ones.
maggielassie: Personally, I do not view Xena and Gabrielle as ‘butch’ or ‘femme’. Sure, Xena could be more dominant at the start (though that doesn’t mean she was uncaring) but when Gabrielle got more experienced she could be dominant too I think. I quite like the vampire bite in GJWHF for instance.
Alkmaion: hmm, I think greek myths have many a times the sneakier, not so strong being the hero of the game…
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’ve always maintained that Xena LET Gabrielle bite her, on purpose, because only a Bacci could “Kill” Bacchus… and Gabrielle was the only one Xena would let close enough to her, trusted enough, to allow to do it
SFM24: @Gin *nods* yep…
tassiedevil7: i think that’s where the writers did a good job, making both woman layered, without either fitting stereotypes.
maggielassie: @Gin That vampire bite clearly showed that Xena could let Gabrielle take the lead too sometimes if you know what I mean.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes
Gin Akasarahsmom: Alannasky…. question?
alannasky: do you ever question or find it a bit off that gabrielle was way forgiving to Xena, while Xena will not be given that many parts where she had to forgive gabrielle?
maggielassie: @Tassie I agree re both women being ‘layered’ and not necessarily into stereotypes.
alannasky: and did it seem that xena didn’t understand it fully or given it fully?
Gin Akasarahsmom: I found it a bit off when Xena was willing to go to Hell for Gabrielle.. and when Xena was in Hell and Gabrielle was not, Gabrielle was just like… oh well.. she’s in Hell and there’s nothing I can do about it… that is what I found ‘off’
Loridav: I think Xena had forgiven Gab a lot. She forgave her for breaking her cover to Lao Ma’s son. She forgave her being ready to side with the angels and kill her. She forgave her for the death of her son.
Loridav: I secretly think that Xena gave the chakram to the head when she saw her stab Eve. That was a flashback.
Texbard: I think I read somewhere that part of that Ep ended up on the cutting room floor – that it was made clear that Xena didn’t realize it was Gab she was about to chakkie.
Texbard: But it got cut.
maggielassie: I totally hated the ‘Gab-drag’ and thought there could have been a better follow-up to that, which is why I wrote the story What Matters Most (post-rift). I only made sense to me that Gabrielle was gonna have nightmare about what Xena did the two of them had to have a talk about it at one point. Don’t miss What Matters Most if you did not like the ‘Gab-drag’
maggielassie: I mean, I tried to ‘fix’ things regarding this in some ways.
Texbard: Bitter Suite was very strange. I liked hearing them sing and it was pretty, but a very strange way to resolve the rift.
Gin Akasarahsmom: it was a stupid way to resolve the rift
Gin Akasarahsmom: that kind of anger and depression would not be resolved in one shot
Gin Akasarahsmom: you don’t just suddenly ‘get over’ something like that
Gin Akasarahsmom: but they needed that to happen, for the show…
Texbard: True. I loved that Xena had to use a different horse because she knew Argo wouldn’t drag Gab.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep
maggielassie: I’ve never been a big fan of the Bitter Suite personally, although the singing was nice. Much prefered One Against An Army though.
Gin Akasarahsmom: which brings up another topic…
Gin Akasarahsmom: What is your favorite episode/s
Gin Akasarahsmom: mine is actually One Against An Army.
Loridav: One Against An Army
Gin Akasarahsmom: not just panelists for this one… anyone.. everyone… What is your favorite episode?
Gin Akasarahsmom: chime in
maggielassie: One Against An Army, Ides of March, When Fates Collide, A Day in the Life, Remember Nothing, probably more…
Texbard: The Ides of March, One Against an Army, and The Abyss
tassiedevil7: i am a sucker for the musical episodes…
SFM24: ADITL. Love the chemistry and humor
tassiedevil7: they are just fun!
tassiedevil7: and yes, silly
Gin Akasarahsmom: I also very much like The Price
cagirl7182: many happy returns
Gin Akasarahsmom: any episode where it’s mostly just Xena and Gabrielle…
maggielassie: MHR is awesome
Gin Akasarahsmom: if anyone else is there the relationship is thrown off
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… MHR is great
Gin Akasarahsmom: Maggie… go ahead.
maggielassie: Anyone liked A Necessary Evil? (the one with Callisto and a lot of lesbian subtext in it, w/ tension with Callisto as well)
maggielassie: So funny, loved it.
Gin Akasarahsmom: that was a good one… Callisto is one of my favorite “other” characters
Loridav: I liked any episode with Callisto in it. She was a special kind of crazy.
Gin Akasarahsmom: she is FUN to write
maggielassie: She’s so funny, isn’t she? She has a thing for Xena and makes Gabrielle slightly jealous and ‘on her toes’ in that ep.
Texbard: I wrote a first-person story from Callisto’s POV. Inside her head is kind of scary.
Alkmaion: The question is: did you get out again?
maggielassie: @Textbard, I’d love to know the title of the story.
Texbard: It’s called “Every Day, Every Day.” It’s part of my Between the Lines Series and is supposed to be her thoughts after the episode, Callisto. It’s at the Academy of Bards
maggielassie: Thanks. I’ll have a look sometime.
SFM24: Loved that whole series, Linda… still hoping for more someday
Texbard: LOL, yes, I got out of her head again.
Texbard: I’m about to go into edits for publication, so I may start writing BTL again. It’s easy to write short stories during edits rather than long ones.
Gin Akasarahsmom: okay… another question from me… Where do you see the Xena fandom going in the future? More Classic/canon stories.. or is the trend headed toward Uber things now?
Alkmaion: Neat one!
Texbard: Hey Gin, question, as I don’t read a lot of fan fic these days. Are folks posting ubers online, or are they mostly going direct to publication these days?
maggielassie: I think the trend is definitely more towards Uber now. Less and less Classic being released. My Seasonal Passion stories are amongst the very few Classic X/G stories being released in recent years.
Texbard: Sorry, direct to publication.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t actually read much Xena stuff, but from what I understand it’s a lot of Uber these days
Loridav: I think the fandom turned the corner into uber years ago. It’s only been recently with writers like Maggielassie and Silvermoonlight that classic is coming back strong.
Xenavirgin: Maggie, do you think the preponderance of Uber may also be to do with the possibilty of eventual publication?
Gin Akasarahsmom: many of the stories, as I understand it, don’t actually get “published” they are posted online for free
Xenavirgin: Yeah Gin, often as a first step and then later published.
Texbard: Are there a lot of new writers coming into the fandom that weren’t part of the original heyday?
Xenavirgin: You here Lin??? Your uber stuff was up as fanfic first wasn’t it?
Texbard: And readers?
Texbard: Yes, my ubers were first posted as fan fic.
maggielassie: @ Lori, thanks for the kind words. @Xenavirgin, I don’t know it may be so, but it also may be because the show isn’t on the air anymore. I indeed wanted to give X/G classic femslash a good boost when I wrote my SP series.
SFM24: Yes, Linda… me included
Gin Akasarahsmom: but that isn’t always what happens… some people merely post their stories and never actually publish them
Texbard: It’s so cool that the fandom is still growing.
Gin Akasarahsmom: the possibility for publishing is there though… with uber stories
Texbard: And new blood in the writing.
Xenavirgin: I’ve come across a few Eastern European kids who only saw the show recently that have entered the fandom and are considering writing.
Gin Akasarahsmom: It’s nice to know that the interest is still there…
maggielassie: @Textbard I am a recently new writer who wasn’t in the fandom (unfortunately) during the heyday, hence why I like making up to the time lost, I guess.
Gin Akasarahsmom: replacing old fans who have mostly dropped out with new ones is a great thing
SFM24: I only started writing in 2011 so its definitely still there..
Xenavirgin: Well my blood isn’t new but I did finally post up the first ever bit of fanfic I wrote like 10 years ago.
Texbard: That’s awesome!
Xenavirgin: Awww Lin it’s not the one we closed out the bar at the Con discussing one year, it was a shorter one…that said, my muse is on a role and I have picked up Choices again and hope to get it up by the end of the summer. :0
Gin Akasarahsmom: My Xena story was the first I’d ever posted… nearly 15 years ago
DiNovia: Same for me Gin, though a little longer ago. And under a different name.
Loridav: Gin, I guess there is no chance that you will ever revisit your conqueror series?
Xenavirgin: What I love about Xena fic is that the huge corpus of work…most of which I have read, has wonderfully blurred into the actual show for me. lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah…
Xenavirgin: Especially Texbard’s Between the Lines series. I watch the eps now and think, “Hey Wait a minute…” lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: sigh… I started a fourth story.. but never finished it… FIN took the heart out of me.. and Miranda replaced it…
Loridav: Aw, come on, Gin. Just one more!
Texbard: LOL. Sometimes I can’t keep it sorted out between lines that were said on the show and ones that appeared in stories.
Gin Akasarahsmom: that is difficult to separate sometimes…
maggielassie: I hate FIN too and I tend to simply ignore it most of the time. But I did write Another Way, that was my very first fanfic story and that was a post-FIN.
Gin Akasarahsmom: It freaks me out that when Gabrielle falls down into the fiery pit because I’m thinking… Damn.. she’s pregnant with Dori!… then I think.. Oh.. right.. not in the show…
Xenavirgin: Am I right in saying that Xena is the only show that actually hired a fanfic writer to write an episode (or two for Missy)?
Texbard: Probably, though I’m not involved in any other fandoms.
Xenavirgin: Ahhh, purist that you are kidlet.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t recall if any other fandoms have done that or not… but I’m not very closely involved with any other fandoms
Texbard: I think Rob was trying to find his way back to the fans after the 5th season.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I know that the reason Missy was chosen was because her fanfics were so popular
DiNovia: I don’t know of any other shows as welcoming and supportive of the fanfic. Individual stars, yes. But whole shows? No.
maggielassie: @Xenavirgin the only show I know of that did that.
Xenavirgin: I can see that point Lin.
Xenavirgin: AS I’ve long known, the Xenaverse ROCKS!
DiNovia: I read Missy’s work before I even knew XWP was a TV show. Found her accidentally.
Texbard: I think Rob allowing the fan fic to stay online set the bar for the other shows.
Xenavirgin: Cool Di, like me and J/7. heheh
Gin Akasarahsmom: that would be tough Di…. Missy would ruin you for the show!
Xenavirgin: True dat Lin.
DiNovia: Yeah. I stopped watching halfway through season 3, I think.
Texbard: Before Xena fan fic, Joss was thinking of shutting down the Buffy sites and ditto for X-Files. They saw it as copyright infringement, but Rob saw it as a way to get more viewers.
Xenavirgin: So I get mentioned outside the panel?? Ah me always the rebel.
Xenavirgin: Ahhh now that I did not know.
Loridav: DiNovia, did I read at the Athenaeum that you recently got married?
Xenavirgin: Go Rob.
DiNovia: Lori, yes! To Lisa Countryman, another fic writer of some repute.
Xenavirgin: Mazel Tov Di.
DiNovia: Thank you!
Xenavirgin: Wow, two writers in a couple, what’s that like.
alannasky: Congrats….i enjoy both of your works
DiNovia: XV: Wordy. Although neither of us has had much of a chance to write. But we’re hoping to get back to it shortly.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Lisa Countryman’s “She Who Hesitates” is the only non J/7 Voyager story that I like…
maggielassie: Congrats on writers coupling.
Xenavirgin: cool beans Di
DiNovia: Thank you, alannasky!
Stacicle: Congratulations, DiNovia!
Alkmaion: Congratulations to both of you!
Gin Akasarahsmom: I think it’s amazing how many people have become friends, or more, because of this series fandom
Xenavirgin: I have a friend who is very keen to finish a SCC fic I believe,
DiNovia: Gin, you are not alone on that front. She has a way of capturing even the most die-hard J/7er with that fic.
Stacicle: Love your fic, and Lisa’s – NCIS if I remember correctly.
DiNovia: Correct, Staci. Close Protection Officer. She has a sequel in the works to that.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I think I like it because it COULD have been a J/7… but it just turned out differently.
Stacicle: Ah, She Who Hesitiates – that was a heartbreaker
Gin Akasarahsmom: anyway… Back to Xena.. yeah?
DiNovia: Sorry, yes, Gin. Back to XWP
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
Texbard: For readers, are there any specific X&G topics you’d like to see in fan fic? Maybe something that hasn’t been explored a lot?
maggielassie: @Lori, I remember you mentioned Silvermoonlight earlier on. She’s a great writer too, good online friend of mine in the XWP fandom also.
Texbard: Or has it all been covered?
Xenavirgin: I’d just like to say I blame Missy Good and Lucy a little for my nickname.
Texbard: LOL. Missy gets blamed for everything, even by Lucy.
Gin Akasarahsmom: There is quite a lot of fic out there… I can’t imagine anything that hasn’t been covered
Xenavirgin: So fanfic has a lot to answer for, lol
maggielassie: I think we could definitely talk some more about XWP.
Loridav: Yeah, Maggie. She recently helped me with the design of the Writer’s Studio Award. A committee has been formed, and they will give the award once a month for fan fiction.
alannasky: well not a topic for me but i would like someone to try to write a story with the pairing of gab/mlila
Xenavirgin: I’ve often seen people ask folk what their top 5 or ten episodes of Xena are. How about the same question for fanfic?
maggielassie: @ Lori, that’s great.
DiNovia: Even back when I was active in the fandom, the sheer number of fics was overwhelming to me. I think, short of xovers with, say, newer shows, XWP writers are prolific and varied enough to have covered a lot of ground.
Texbard: Gab/M’Lila would be interesting. Trying to think, though, how old Gab would have been when M’Lila was alive.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Sure… if people can choose their top five favorites
Texbard: Not that facts ever got in the way of a good X&G story.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t know the titles/authors of most of them
Xenavirgin: Yeah Lin, ditch the maths. lol
alannasky: me too…it would be interesting texbard
Loridav: Am I the only one that can’t read about X&G with anyone else? Uber or otherwise.
Xenavirgin: Chiraroscuro, Ides of March…series, SHadows of the Soul, At a Distance (Soul mates) Charioteer of HAr
DiNovia: No, you are not. There is something untouchable about that couple. Can’t break them up.
Xenavirgin: Nope, I’m a total OTP as well Lori
Xenavirgin: X&G only and ever
maggielassie: Okay, my Top 5 (on top of my head): Heaven Down Here by Rebecca Hall, A Fine Line by Jenbob, Beyond Melosa’s Shadow by My OSage, Life From Death by Patricia L. Givens and The Wedding Night by Seska. There is of course much more. All my favourite Classic fanfic stories are linked from my website at maggielassie.wordpress.com/
alannasky: i remember a writer who wrote a fanfic of Gab traveling through Xena past and encountering few of the important people of her life but not Mlila
Gin Akasarahsmom: Anyone read crossovers? What would the ultimate crossover be for you?
Xenavirgin: Don’t think I came across that one Alanna
maggielassie: @ Gin, raised hand for question.
alannasky: meow she encounters mao Lao [sorry if mispelled] and you see how they interact
Texbard: Seven Days in Pompeii – DJWP, What Do You Do – Imagine, Journey of Soulmates series – Melissa Good, Pretium Silenti – Spyrel, LJ Maas’ Conqueror series
maggielassie: No, I never read any crossover, never felt attracted -but perhaps some are good.
alannasky: i will try to find it again and give it to u guys
Texbard: I wrote a Sliders/Xena crossover. The tough part in crossovers is making the cross believable.
Gin Akasarahsmom: maggie had a question
Xenavirgin: What do you say Gin, xover Xena/DWP?? heheheh
Xenavirgin: Maybe Xena clones. heheh
maggielassie: Has anyone here ever read A Fine Line by Jenbob? It’s as long as a novel, very emotionally charged, incredibly romantic and very hot too. I’d recommend it to any X/G fan.
Alma0_0: alannasky writer for D
Gin Akasarahsmom: Alkmaion is next…
Xenavirgin: Yup, one of the original 5 star purple stories on my first ever spreadsheet. heheh
Alkmaion: Hmm…I liked shyfox Willow/Buffy series way back…it had a nice Xena/Gabrielle part
alannasky: it was D Alma?
Xenavirgin: I never read Buffy or watched it for that matter Alkmaion, but I do love the Slayer character Texbard put in her Ides of March series.
maggielassie: Well, it’s linked somewhere on my site anyway, in the ‘Other X/G femslash stories’ section at http://maggielassie.wordpress.com/
Xenavirgin: Kallerine I think was the name.
Texbard: Thanks. I’m a huge Buffy fan. Kalleine was my nod to Buffy.
Gin Akasarahsmom: one of the very first stories I tried to write was a Xena/Buffy crossover
Alkmaion: *I´m making notes now +g*
Gin Akasarahsmom: never posted it though
Stacicle: Just thinking off the cuff here – I wouldn’t mind a Xover with Conqueror/Gab and Janeway/Seven, where J/7 are transported back in time, and their relationship develops into something more even as they as a soon-to-be couple helps Xena the Conqueror and Gabrielle the Revolutionary connect.
Texbard: I someone hunting for a story by D?
Alma0_0: Who wrote the history where Gab travels to the past is a Post.fin
Alma0_0: I like D
Xenavirgin: Well Lin it is bizarre quirk of my character that I cannot do vampire fics particularly, but I have no trouble with Bacchae. lolol
maggielassie: I would love a cross-over if there was some Resident Evil femslash in it, with Alice/Claire or something like that. Love Milla Jovovich.
Texbard: Blood Bond by D?
Alma0_0: yes Tex
maggielassie: But never read a crossover honestly.
Texbard: Ah, cool. I liked that one a lot.
Alkmaion: How about Xena in a lovecraftian setting?
Alkmaion: …like the Dreamlands
Alkmaion: For a crossover
Xenavirgin: Is that a book Alkmaion
Xenavirgin: Because if it is a weird thought just popped into my head. of a crossover of Xena/Pride and Prejudice. heheeh
Alma0_0: uy X
Alkmaion: …it´s some of the stories of Lovecraft.
maggielassie: I have another question, more generally about X/G fanfic.
Gin Akasarahsmom: oh.. go ahead
Alkmaion: I always was kinda partial to Kane/ELizabeth Bennet myself *g*
maggielassie: Anyone here, do you like the X/G love stories you read to be very emotionally charged with a lot of drama in them, and what about hurt/comfort?
Gin Akasarahsmom: we’ve only got about 20 minutes left in the panel.. so just jump in with comments…
Gin Akasarahsmom: I very much like the emotional ones
Texbard: I love a good hurt/comfort story.
Gin Akasarahsmom: hurt/comfort is great
maggielassie: Me too, Gin.
Loridav: Straight up romance. I don’t do angst that comes from the relationship.
maggielassie: I love sweet hugs and cuddles between them too.
Xenavirgin: I’m a sucker for a good First Time fic
LZClotho: Xena fandom is happy nostalgia for me. I starting writing again and 16 years later I still love reading Xena/Gab classic and Jan/Mel ubers.
LZClotho: I liked the adventure stories most. Romance was nice, but for me, it was about two women taking on the world and stories that used that were my preference.
Xenavirgin: Oooo Mel and Janice…gotta add Is There a Doctor on the Dig to my list of favourites.
Gin Akasarahsmom: hurt/comfort is often part of the first time situation
alannasky: i love all of them
LZClotho: Is There a Doctor on the Dig’s author was my first story beta. She convinced me to post my own stories.
Xenavirgin: I LLLOOOOOOOOOVVVVEEE when Mel sayd “Sweet Jesus” when Janice is making love to her, I can sooooooooooo hear Lucy’s southern belle accent saying it.
Texbard: I loved the emotion-driven episodes and scenes in Xena, and that crossed over into what I liked reading in fan fic, but I like for it to have a good plot as well.
maggielassie: So do I.
LZClotho: I was never a big fan of the slapstick. I know the actors loved it, but it just was never all that funny to me.
Alma0_0: Only I ask them of deaths of characters in the fandons no longer if they are not by miracle going to bring back to life themselves
maggielassie: I like a few ‘Plot What Plot’ stories too, when they are good.
Xenavirgin: Ahhh but LZ, there are some excellent Humour fics out there in Xena
maggielassie: But I do love a good romance with a plot.
Texbard: True, Maggie. One of my favs is BL Miller’s The Show.
Xenavirgin: Comparing Notes by Charmer, and The Date by Kamoraskan
maggielassie: @Textbard, The Show was awesome.
LZClotho: Oh, man, character deaths in canon. I was SO mad to find out what they were doing with Solon. I had JUST written a fic with him all grown up and inviting Xena and Gabrielel to an event in his honor and to meet his new wife.
Xenavirgin: Ooooooooooooooommmyyy Lin sooo have to re-read that one.
Texbard: You’ve Got Scrolls by TNovan, Fanatic, and Advocate was hilarious.
Texbard: For a good humor story.
Xenavirgin: Definitely Lin. Great one.
maggielassie: Cat and Mouse by T. Novan was awesome.
maggielassie: I liked some CN Winters too.
Xenavirgin: I liked the Raising Melosa series, but it kind of went on just a little too far.
Loridav: Over a hundred installments!
maggielassie: I heard of that series.
maggielassie: Looks good.
alannasky: meow there is too many for me to name…i can never choose which one for me is the best or like the most but i love and enjoy each one as i read them and remember them
Texbard: Now it makes me remember The Speed of the Beat of My Heart.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… some stories follow the “soap opera” model and just keep going and going…
maggielassie: Maybe we should talk about Uber; we’ve not talked much of it so far (that I remember).
Gin Akasarahsmom: Uber is a good topic
alannasky: ahh good memories of uber
Alma0_0: i like uber
Gin Akasarahsmom: Do you find it easier or more difficult to write/read? anyone?
Xenavirgin: Well as far as Uber goes…don’t Read Borderline on the Tube in London, you get looked at funny when you fall on the floor laughing about Carson’s fanny fatique. lololol
alannasky: hell i remember reading while being in the waiting room for jury duty
Gin Akasarahsmom: We have about 10 minutes left in the panel…
Alma0_0: ya se acaba Gin?
Xenavirgin: I was reading Xena fanfic before I went into surgery. heheh
Loridav: Does everyone consider it to be uber if it features dark/blue and blonde/green and posted to a Xena site?
Texbard: I used to read it during lunch at work.
Loridav: I do.
Gin Akasarahsmom: features and personality…
Gin Akasarahsmom: not all dark haired/blue eyed women are Xena ubers
Xenavirgin: Needs more than the colouring difference for me Lori.
maggielassie: I think it’s more difficult to write as you need to know some information/research and sometimes you need to know how to best put things Reading, I can do it in 2-3 days. Writings can take weeks for me.
LZClotho: features and personality, even if swapped, yes
Texbard: I have learned that even if you don’t intend it to be an uber and make the characters have completely different hair color and eyes, some readers will still see Lucy & Renee when they read.
alannasky: hell looks, personality, situations etc
Loridav: So, to be uber Xena’s past life has to be involved somehow?
LZClotho: that happened to me, Texbard. I was o_0
Gin Akasarahsmom: if the personalities are correct.. yes.. linda.. that’s true
LZClotho: no, past lives do not have to be incorporated, just personality traits.. the archetypal aspects.
maggielassie: @Lori, I think Dark/Blue Blonde/Green is good, definitely a mark of uber.
Loridav: That happened to me with Galveston 1900, Linda! I’m hardcore like that!
Gin Akasarahsmom: for a TRUE Uber.. yeah.. Past lives need to come into play, sort of…. if there is no connection to Xena at all then it’s just an original
Xenavirgin: Point of order to that Gin.
Loridav: But how many stories do you want to read that feature a brooding woman?
Alma0_0: yes Linda i adore Gaveston
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… sorry… FOR ME… that’s just my opinion
LZClotho: Xena wasn’t always “brooding” though. That’s reading her character too narrowly IMHO
SFM24: LOL.. Lori
maggielassie: I think Modern Uber differs from Traditional Uber. Potential reincarnations do not necessarily know about their past lives.
Texbard: For Galveston I was actually picturing Claudia Christian and Alex Tydings in my head when I was writing.
Xenavirgin: Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo soooo good to know Lin.
Gin Akasarahsmom: nice.. that is a good pairing… I picture them when I write my orignal stories for Hourglass..
Xenavirgin: I shall maybe mention that to Claudia in August. heheh
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe… she’ll be thrilled
Loridav: I would love to read about their lives in Paris. Any chance?
Texbard: She’s great. She always donated a lot of autographed pics to the Bardcon auctions.
Texbard: Paris might happen. But I think I need to go to Paris first.
Xenavirgin: Yeah but if you do, there better be a detour via London mate.
Gin Akasarahsmom: five more minutes…
Texbard: There is an extremely good chance I’ll be in London next year.
Gin Akasarahsmom: any last comments??
Gin Akasarahsmom: about Xena?
Texbard: This has been fun!
Xenavirgin: Really?? Coool!!!!
maggielassie: It was a pleasure to be invited here. Thank you all very much.
Texbard: Xena is my emotional muse.
Loridav: Xena Rules FOREVER!!! At least in my world.
maggielassie: Yes, it was fun.
Xenavirgin: Xena IS, thank God!
maggielassie: Xena and Gabrielle together forever!!!!
alannasky: thanks guys for being here and taking the time to do this….thank you for the event
Loridav: Thanks for the invite!
alannasky: May this fandom live forever
Alma0_0: Thanks to all the talented writers that we have been amused by for years and the majority of the free time!
Gin Akasarahsmom: It’s going to go on for quite some time…
maggielassie: @Gin, I hope
DiNovia: Thank you for continuing the great writing, all.
Loridav: Keep a look out for the Writer’s Studio Awards!
alannasky: meow hope to see u guys in the later panels
SFM24: Ooh.. cool Lori.. I will
maggielassie: @ Lori, I will.
alannasky: going to buffy now
Gin Akasarahsmom: Yep.. I’m off to the buffy panel now…
Gin Akasarahsmom: this one will be Web series…
Texbard: I appreciate all of you folks who keep the fandom going with your websites and all.
maggielassie: Thanks, Textbard.
Alkmaion: well said, Texbard
Alma0_0: a que hora es el DWP?
LZClotho: piggybacking on what Texbard said. So many sites so many hours. Thank you all.
Xenavirgin: In two hours Alma
Alma0_0: thens Xena
maggielassie: Thanks all. Bye!