fsc_ralst: As we wave bye-bye to SVU we say hello to Grey’s Anatomy… hello!
fsc_ralst: Would the panellists please ensure their text is set to red and then introduce themselves?
beachbum3668: I’m beachbum
Whedonist: Hello all!
fsc_ralst: So, if the Grey’s fandom was a trauma case, what would be its chances right now?
Whedonist: After a 16 hour surger, 40/60, depends on how they handle season 10
beachbum3668: I think that the season 9 finale was one of the better episodes in recent memory. If they just maintain that level of writing they should be okay
fsc_ralst: So we’ve hit it at a critical stage?
fsc_ralst: And the rest of season 9 how do you think that stacked up?
Whedonist: I trust the writers on the show to do okay, I just saw an explosion from the Calzona camp…there was much flailing and gnashing of teeth
fsc_ralst: See, I don’t trust the writers
Whedonist: why not?
beachbum3668: boy you got that right. Somebody needs to slap the writers silly for having Arizona cheat of Callie
Whedonist: I take it the cheating was not received well?
fsc_ralst: They’ve just done some very odd things in the past and ignored characters – like Arizona – until they wanted to ruin them
Whedonist: I mean it sucked, but I can see why they did it.
Whedonist: I’m not sure if I agree with their execution though
beachbum3668: I thought it was handled kind of ham-handedly
bcharmer: The execution was rushed, but I understood the motivation as well
fsc_ralst: I actually liked the build up with the pretty doc because it put some life back into Arizona but it was rushed
Whedonist: that’s where I’m Bcharmer…I get it, but the execution was poor, I need to see how they handle it in S10 to really come up with a verdict.
fsc_ralst: I also hated how they sidelined Arizona as a doctor the entire season
beachbum3668: I understand the rating game too, but c’mon, poor Callie has had nothing but drama in her life. I was kiinda hoping for a little peace for a while.
Whedonist: True, Callie’s been dumped on a lot, poor lady, I thought she’d be due for a break
fsc_ralst: But if they give a character peace they pretty much lose all their screentime
Whedonist: Is it so bad to see a happy couple on tv?
beachbum3668: Well, it may be on Grey’s Anatomy
fsc_ralst: Nope, but you don’t tend to in these types of show. At least not for long
fsc_ralst: I guess we can be thankful that they’re still alive
Whedonist: This is why I don’t trust writers with my favorite ships, keep it out of canon and let us fanfic writers play
bcharmer: at the end of seaon 9 I was chanting “don’t kill off the lesbian, Shonda”
fsc_ralst: How would you like to see it handled, going forward into s10?
beachbum3668: Well, we certainly don’t have to answer to networks or sponsors
fsc_ralst: @bc yeah, we treat our ships with respect
Whedonist: LOL, is it sad that the com, has to actually fear that, bc?
Whedonist: i’d like Arizona to get some solid time to address what she’s going through, I don’t think they’ve properly addressed that in S9
fsc_ralst: I thought they’d kill off Arizona last year, so we’ve had at least one extra year of angst
bcharmer: I personally would like to see Lauren stick around and build an actual triangle with her, Arizona and Callie
Whedonist: I wasn’t so much worried that they’d kill her, but that they’d ruin the character past the point of fixing, which hell, they still might.
beachbum3668: Personally, I want to see Callie and Arizona hang in there. And I’d like to see Arizona get her act together finally.
fsc_ralst: @bc Oh, I like that idea. I feel a little disloyal for liking it so much
Whedonist: see BC, I just went to naughty place with that, and i don’t think network tv’s ready for it. Damn it all to hell.
bcharmer: I’m okay with Calzona being end-game, but I’d like to see them earn it and they need a good obstacle
Whedonist: That’s be welcome, beach.
fsc_ralst: lol that’s why we have fic whedonist
Whedonist: Right, but a girl can dream, right?
beachbum3668: Much as the idea of a triangle would make it interesting I don’t think network TV is quite ready for that
bcharmer: Believe me, I’ve thought of writing it
fsc_ralst: and I think the actress is signed up to something else
Whedonist: I read she won’t be back…or it was implied but she didn’t state
bcharmer: her pilot didn’t get picked up and White Collar doesn’t plan to use her heavily, so maybe Shonda is just keeping it under wraps
fsc_ralst: I get a little tired of the break them up, get them back together merrigoround though
beachbum3668: One thing you have to give the GA producers props for is keeping things close to the chest. when they want to keep a secret, they do
Whedonist: Also is anyone over the Owen/Christina thing, or is it just me?
fsc_ralst: It’s not just you
bcharmer: I love them together, but I’m tired of the whole I want I child / I don’t want a child storyline
fsc_ralst: Yes, it’s been a battle without an end in sight
Whedonist: I thought for sure they were going with the adoption story line last season…
beachbum3668: Christina will never be happy not giving 150% to her surgery. they’ve beat the kid thing to death. Let them part and grow as people. Doesn’t mean they can’t hook up from time to time for a good shag
Whedonist: It would have at least gave us an end.
fsc_ralst: Do we know what, erm, interns are coming back? (the newbies)
Whedonist: all of them from what I’ve seen. Which I actually like.
Whedonist: I’d like to see how Karev and his intern turns out…
fsc_ralst: I got a little tired of the female interns’ (two of them) stories revolving around ‘their men’
fsc_ralst: I loved Brookes, though
beachbum3668: The interns need some strong story arcs to develop their characters more fully. LOL, I find myself wishing for the Nazi to return to teach them.
Whedonist: Beach, I miss Bailey so hard.
fsc_ralst: Yeah, Meredith doesn’t have the same power as old school Bailey
beachbum3668: Altho Meredith was pretty hard core talking the intern through her surgery in the finale
Whedonist: it’s actually sad how much I miss Bailey. I don’t know what they were doing with her character this season, but I didn’t like it.
beachbum3668: Yeah, Bailey with doubts is not a pretty picture.
fsc_ralst: Bailey has always been one of my favourites but we haven’t had enough of true-Bailey in a while
fsc_ralst: I love her friendship with Callie and Arizona too
beachbum3668: That was the one single character I wish they’d left alone. I want Bailey to stay strong. It’s ain’t GA without Bailey kicking ass.
Whedonist: her and Callie’s dynamic is just so interesting, I don’t read/have seen enough fic exploring that.
bcharmer: that will be interesting when she finds out about Arizona cheating – you know Bailey will have something to say about that
fsc_ralst: Yeah, she’ll be right in there
beachbum3668: I hope she kicks her ass around the hospital a couple of times
Whedonist: The If/Then epi was enough of TimidBailey for me…and her with braids was…interesting.
beachbum3668: Knocks some sense into her
Whedonist: oh, bailey kicking arizona’s butt would be a good season opener…
fsc_ralst: a bit of tough love
beachbum3668: yeah sparky!
the_dhamphir: that would be good
Whedonist: Ralst, put it on the list we can send to Shonda…they could redeem themselves, a litle, that way.
fsc_ralst: Do you think the others will ostracize Arizona when it comes out?
bcharmer: Maybe, but Karev has her back
beachbum3668: I hope so – she needs to have her butt kicked. Everybody’s treated her with kid gloves since the crash Time to expect her to be OVER IT
fsc_ralst: Yeah, although they haven’t seemed as close lately, probably because his story has been taken up with Jo
fsc_ralst: I don’t think she’ll ever be over it
bcharmer: She still has to work through it before she can get over it
the_dhamphir: she needs a damn attitude adjustment though
beachbum3668: I don’t mean over it as in forget it happened. I mean over it so that it stops being the driving force is everything she does
fsc_ralst: She needs and should have had counselling
Whedonist: I would say Arizona needs called out on her shit, but then I think of the character, and the only person I’ve seen do that to her is Callie, Mark, and the one dr. that’s name is escaping me
bcharmer: I miss Teddy
fsc_ralst: Yeah, she needs someone, not Callie, to be straight wth her but she doesn’t seem to have any friends who could do that (Bailey is too much Callie’s friend, maybe)
beachbum3668: that was one character leaving I did NOT like. I liked Teddy too
Whedonist: she got shafted, character wise.
fsc_ralst: I liked Teddy
Whedonist: Arizona doesn’t have anyone besides Callie… =0/
bcharmer: Maybe Owen will step into that void
Whedonist: which is a sore point really, there’s not support for her there.
the_dhamphir: i’m about fed up with Owen too
beachbum3668: Owen needs to grow a pair.
fsc_ralst: Besides Calzona, do you ship any other femslash pairings?
beachbum3668: I ship in J/7(Voyager) and Mirandy (Devil Wears Prada)
fsc_ralst: Sorry, I meant GA pairings
Whedonist: I have a ton, but for Grey’s not really. I’ve read a few Addie/Callie
beachbum3668: oops…my bad. Sorry. No, I don’t
bcharmer: Obviously, I like Laurzona, but I can’t think of anyone else current on Grey’s
beachbum3668: I think they’re going to have to introduce another strong female character for me to abandon Callie/Arizona
fsc_ralst: Could you not ship two separate pairings in a fandom, beach?
Whedonist: Like Casey/Olivia, there are the rare unicorns that do still ship Erica/Callie…
beachbum3668: I can, but my head gets confused when I try
bcharmer: Way back in the day, I liked the Izzie/Addy pairing
fsc_ralst: Erica/Callie were shafted or at least Erica was
beachbum3668: I find that I invest in individual characters, not pairings per se
Whedonist: Izzie/Addy was how I got my start in GA, but then I watched the show and hated Izzie on screen…it ruined it for me
fsc_ralst: Yes, I want Brookes to find a nice girl and settle down
bcharmer: ooh – that would be awesome
Whedonist: That would fantastic.
fsc_ralst: I hate it when you find a character you love and think would be perfect femslash material but there’s no one in her fandom to pair her with
Whedonist: Can someone do something Kepner while we’re at it…I think she needs something.
fsc_ralst: I like Kepner
bcharmer: I totally agree Ralst. It’s like Rollins on SVU
fsc_ralst: Yeah, I keep hoping someone will come along but they’re never right
Whedonist: Maybe I need the adjustment, I can’t find the charm in her. All I want to do is cuff her on the back of the head and tell her to act right.
fsc_ralst: Brookes or Kepner?
Whedonist: Kepner. I like Brookes just fine…she’s fiesty in the subtle way
beachbum3668: There’s nothing wrong with Kepner that getting laid regularly won’t cure
Whedonist: I really liked watching the evolution of her relationship with Derek play out last season.
fsc_ralst: @beach too true
bcharmer: Maybe Brookes will connect with a patient next season
Whedonist: But she won’t! and really, that’s where the hitting comes in.
bcharmer: @Whendon lol
fsc_ralst: Brookes needs to put those magic hands or her to good use
Whedonist: LOL…Kepner would freakout…
Whedonist: well, wait, that might be fun to watch
fsc_ralst: lol yes
fsc_ralst: It would be nice to have a happy/silly pairing to counter balance the impending angst-fest of Calzona
beachbum3668: May I ask a question here?
beachbum3668: What do you all think of the TV guide “25 Episodes of GA you HAVE to watch before Season 10” blog?
beachbum3668: Has anybody else read it?
Whedonist: I’ve not seen the blog…give me a minute…
beachbum3668: Hello? anybody else in here?
bcharmer: I think they got most of the eps right
bcharmer: not sure about the order
Whedonist: a cursory view, meh, I’ll be honest and say that
fsc_ralst: I skimmed it just then but nothing in particular jumped out
Whedonist: I watch mainly for Callie and Bailey, I could avoid the Izzie eps, but that’s my not liking her character
Whedonist: they had some good ones on there that were key for the remaining characters though
bcharmer: what about you @beach? what did you think about it?
beachbum3668: I agreed with the ranking for the most part. Few I would have changed around, but I DO agree with their choice of #1: Now or Never from Season 5. That’s where we lose 007
beachbum3668: I liked the blog for the reason that it prompts people who may not be die-hard fans to go back and re-discover the reasons why GA is still one of the best shows on TV
bcharmer: I miss George
Whedonist: God that epi was horrible to watch.
beachbum3668: It was…the emotional impact of that ep was amazing
Whedonist: in the angsty, hold hand kind of way…
fsc_ralst: But why do we need to watch those eps in particular before the new season? Are they relevant or just a top 25?
beachbum3668: they’re a top 25 that show how GOOD the show can be
fsc_ralst: I was trying to discern clues and coming up blank
beachbum3668: Just think of how great the writing is (for the most part) in those eps
Whedonist: I’d agree with beach, a lot on that list remind you of why this show’s going into it’s 10th season
beachbum3668: I think it’s kind of a not-so-gentle noodge to the producers to keep the show focused on what’s made it great and not wimp out on us
fsc_ralst: So what would you all like to see the writers focus on in season ten?
bcharmer: Sticking with the Lauren, Arizona, Callie triange
Whedonist: the obviouis is Callie/Arizona and fixing what’s broken there for me. Bring Bailey back to being Bailey, and a new Cardio God for Christina to mess with would be great
beachbum3668: I want to see Meredith step up and become a fitting heir to Ellis Grey
fsc_ralst: How about a Cardio God who Christina cannot mess with? ’bout time she met her match
beachbum3668: I want to watch her invent a new surgical procedure on the fly saving a patient and become her mother’s daughter
Whedonist: and hell, I forgot about Webber, I’m not sure how I’ll feel if Webber is dead.
beachbum3668: Oooo…that would be fun
bcharmer: I like that idea ralst
beachbum3668: The Cardio God, not Webber dying
Whedonist: I’d be okay with tha ralst, Christina is amazing when there’s competition.
fsc_ralst: Yeah, Webber dying is not so much fun
beachbum3668: Please can we not have Christine SLEEP with the Cardio God???
Whedonist: that would be novel
Whedonist: bring Teddy back for that to happen though
fsc_ralst: I loved the scenes between Cristina and St, Elsewhere doc last year
bcharmer: me too
beachbum3668: Kim Raver was pretty adamant that she did not want to return to the show
fsc_ralst: Unless Cardio God is female and sparky
Whedonist: That sucks, beach, I hadn’t heard.
fsc_ralst: Is it a not-so-nice place to work?
Whedonist: actresses that could play the cardio god christina could spark with, suggestions?
Whedonist: No clue, ralst. There’ve been skirmishes on set, but nothing recently that’s hit the press out here
beachbum3668: I haven’t heard anything major blowing up
fsc_ralst: Someone who looks soft on the outside but with a spine of steel… my mind is blanking
bcharmer: The actress that played Charlotte on Private Practice would be perfect
bcharmer: blanking on her name
Whedonist: I haven’t really watched Private Practice
fsc_ralst: Four minutes until the end of the panel
fsc_ralst: I haven’t seen PP either
beachbum3668: Are you thinking of the actress or the Charlotte character from PP?
bcharmer: kaDee Stickleand
fsc_ralst: Rachel Weisz because I always want to see more of her
bcharmer: Christana would never push her around
Whedonist: yes, ralst, yes to that
fsc_ralst: The actress who played Dee on Battlestar Galactica?
Whedonist: gina torres
Whedonist: Although I kinda want her in everything so…
bcharmer: she’d be good, but she’s playing a badass on Suits
fsc_ralst: I knew cloning was the way to go
beachbum3668: We need a fiona Glenanne on GA
Whedonist: hell yeah, orphan black shouldn’t have the market cornered
beachbum3668: I mean totally kickass female lead
Whedonist: oh, that would be nice too, but I think our times up… =0(
Whedonist: thanks everyone!
fsc_ralst: We’re out of time, so a big thank you to all our panellists and everyone else. Convene back next year to see how well the GA writers did
Gin Akasarahsmom: Guiding Light panel starts momentarily
beachbum3668: thanks everyone!
bcharmer: thanks everybody!