Shatterpath: The Marvelverse
Alkmaion: Cinematic, or in general?
Shatterpath: i don’t read comics
Shatterpath: which is actually a good thing in this case, because talk about backstory!
Shatterpath: s’ok. I obsess enough for 2
noacparker: what are you obsessing over?
yurianimeotaku: Does MCU include “Agent Carter” the TV show?
Shatterpath: Peggy is my fandom goddess
xJadedGrlx: cartinelli forever
Alkmaion: Multifannish…I like the word 🙂
Shatterpath: yay Cartinelli!
ariestess: Yes, MCU includes Agent Carter and Agents of Shield. We should have clarified that better.
yurianimeotaku: <—blames Shatterpath for turning me on to MLPFiM a few years ago.
Shatterpath: we’ll save the detailed squeeing for the panel.
Shatterpath: That MLP story was great fun
yurianimeotaku: Thanks, that sent me searching for more…and more.
arbitrary_greay: Congrats to Cartinelli for breaking the top 15 its first year XD
ariestess: Cartinelli hit the top 15? Nice!
ariestess: I don’t ship it, but I’m glad it’s so huge for so many who do.
ariestess: And the MCU [and related series] panel is set to start in just a few minutes.
Shatterpath: I have a Dark!Peggy Cartinelli piece I’ll get done for that
tristianmakhai: Damnit, do I have to go find Grim and drag her in here?
yurianimeotaku: I’ve started reading Cartinelli. Interesting.
Shatterpath: Come on my MCU peoples! Time to SQUEEEEEEEEEE
Alkmaion: No, no, no…not the squee
quietheartedfsc: yes, tristian, you do
Shatterpath: Angie and Peggy get me right in the feels. I love ’em
Shatterpath: and, can I add, for some entirely bizarre reason they’ve turned me into an AU junkie?
tristianmakhai: hah. [dances in victory]
yurianimeotaku: Been reading the blogs. LOTS of speculation about Cartinelli becoming real next season.
ariestess: All right, so admin only have bolded text, everyone else has regular text in your choice of colors [but don’t go too light or we can’t read it easily].
Shatterpath: yes, Tiger, you are at least partially to blame
ariestess: If you have a question, raise your hand. I’ll get to you in order.
ariestess: We don’t actually have any panelists for this panel, so we’re just going a kind of coffee talk style panel. This has worked well in past cons.
Shatterpath: I’m nearly done with a Dark mobster Peggy. Drool, you striped monkey!
ariestess: So let’s start with an easy question. Within the MCU verse, including the two TV series, which is your favorite femslash pairing?
Shatterpath: though, I’m hoping to get a BlackHill idea at some point. because YUM
tristianmakhai: Ship all of the things. [nods sagely]
Shatterpath: I tried to get the authors of Gone With the Dogs here, but it didn’t pan out
tristianmakhai: Gone with the Dogs and Weekend Plans will make you ship it. Damn them
Shatterpath: if you MCU fans have NOT read Gone With the Dogs, GO BOOKMARK IT ON AO3
Shatterpath: ok, for those of you new to Cartinelli, what sold you on it?
ariestess: Because I forgot to mention it before, Shatterpath is your cohost for this panel. She’s the in-house expert.
yurianimeotaku: YouTube vids
Shatterpath: there were/are some good ones out there
yurianimeotaku: Makes my screen sizzle
Exquisiteliltart: I’m just hanging out, but please sell me on Cartinelli, I haven’t read any fics
xJadedGrlx: I have to say I shipped them from the beginning. I just love the way angie lights up when peggy’s around.
Shatterpath: they are a classic case of fandom reading more into friendship, but they make it spectacularly easy
Shatterpath: oh yeah, Angie got it BAD
arbitrary_greay: Doesn’t hurt that, like with Bering and Wells, the actresses themselves are playing it
arbitrary_greay: or seem to be, at least
tristianmakhai: Starting the show (I came into it late), I wasn’t sure I would get hooked on it. And then I watched it and it was a ‘shit’ moment, because I knew. I knew I shipped it. Atwell and Fonseca sell these too goobers unbelievably well
Shatterpath: damn right
Shatterpath: now we jsut need Fonseca back, dammit!
Shatterpath: we’re already gonna get too much canon ‘pointless love interest’ in season 2
Shatterpath: Tart? I have quite a collection bookmarked on AO3 if I might recommend starting there?
Alkmaion: PLI: kinda like in ‘Rizzoli&Wife’?
Shatterpath: the contrast between the two women is fun to watch
Shatterpath: was anyone else wondering early on if Angie was the evil Russian Assassin?
arbitrary_greay: does anyone here ship carterwood?
tristianmakhai: [laughs] because she played a russian assassin in Nikita, I figured we would not be that lucky no matter how brilliant it would’ve been.
Shatterpath: that could be fun in a dark way. And there are some awesome fics out there of the SRR recruiting Dottie
tristianmakhai: [pounces on Grim]
Shatterpath: Makes me miss Natasha, particularly after that OOC horror show that was the latest film *shudder*
Shatterpath: ah, the infamous Grim!
Shatterpath: Tris speaks highly of you
tristianmakhai: Grim is the biggest Peggy (and Steve Rogers) fan I have ever met in my life. You’ll take a shine to her, Pup
Shatterpath: good, I always need a ear/eye to squeal at
arbitrary_greay: I just wanna ship all of Bridget’s characters XD
Shatterpath: and Steggnelli has done amazing things for my creativity
Shatterpath: I can’t wait to see Dottie again!
arbitrary_greay: ooh yes
ariestess: I <3 <3 <3 Dottie. IJS
arbitrary_greay: you can never go wrong with polyship
arbitrary_greay: ot3 ftw
Shatterpath: the MCU is ripe with poly opportunities
Shatterpath: though Idon’t think I’ve made it past 4
tristianmakhai: so muc to ship, so little time
Shatterpath: pack dynamics are excellent for damaged characters and the MCU is rife with them
Shatterpath: we need a universe where Dottie strings JAck up to dangle until he stops twitching and run Sousa off
ariestess: Oh, I kind of like that idea, Doggie.
Shatterpath: Sousa is ok, I guess, but there has GOT to be better guys out there, c’mon
Shatterpath: sure, Jack’s dea, the SSR gets messy, BOOM, Shield!
tristianmakhai: The problem I have with Sousa is the sun set and rose on Peggy until he thought she was with Stark, then, the only thing that redeemed her in his eyes was the fact she was ‘still faithful’ to Steve. Thompson is an ass, but at least he started as an ass, and has shown some amount of growth in the Iron Ceiling and after. Sousa, on the other hand, exhibits a far more pervasive sort of sexism.
tristianmakhai: The fact that he’s parade as some kind if a legitimate love interest is concerning as hell, at least to me. BEcause of his actions in the last few episodes.
tristianmakhai: UGH, my grammar/typing is horrifying. I am so sorry I am inflicting this upon you guys
Shatterpath: one step forward, two steps, back, huh?
ariestess: *silently judges the pup*
Shatterpath: oh hush you, there is no place for grammer or spelling in squee
tristianmakhai: Yeah. Meanwhile, Thompson took at least a tiny step forward in terms of how he interacted with and trusted Peggy.
Shatterpath: at least we’ll see more assertive Peggy season 2
Shatterpath: now we just Private Loraine to come be her secretary
tristianmakhai: Don’t get me wrong: I femslash like whoa and I OTP Steve/Peggy to an embarassing degree (how did I end up here?), but if I *had* to pick between the two? Well, I dislike Thompson less after the last two episodes.
Shatterpath: Tumblr has been a great resourse for fellow fans and lots of prompts
ariestess: If they get Dormer to do Private Lorraine again, I will be a happy girl and probably ship her with Peggy. NGL
tristianmakhai: So, does anyone watch Agents of Shield? I mean: MELINDA MAY. SKYE. Bobbi Morse. Jemma Simmons. ALL OF THE LADIES. Maria Hill
Shatterpath: Peggy/Loraine would be fun as hell
xJadedGrlx: yup, I love AoS.
grimorie: Skye grew on me so much, And Melinda is love!
arbitrary_greay: I would ship Private Lorraine and Dottie :3
Shatterpath: ooo! That’s a fun rare pair!
arbitrary_greay: (Just Dormer and Regan going head to head in acting? Unf)
ariestess: *blinks* Pri– and Dot– *faints from the sexy*
tristianmakhai: If you haven’t made it through season 1, anyone, push up to the episode Tracks and then trust me: it takes off. It takes off and season 2 is breathtaking. It’s not perfect, but oh my god. The things they get right. Skyyyyyye. (May. Always May.)
ariestess: GDI! Now I’m going to be writing MCU femslash, aren’t I?
Shatterpath: so in other words you wanna see Dormer climb tall Regan?
msfire00: dont we all
tristianmakhai: You know, I think that is something we would not survive. I think that might actually kill the internet
ariestess: OMFG YES! I want to see Dormer looking at Regan like I look at tacos. Or vice versa.
Shatterpath: *dies laughing*
Shatterpath: I have a reoccurring headcanon of Loraine joining the New York SSR and not taking ANY CRAP
ariestess: I’ve written exactly one fic in the MCU verse. It was a Peggy/Steve, but I’m open to Peggy/Dottie or Lorraine/Dottie.
Shatterpath: anyone else with headcanons? I never get tired of this discussion
ariestess: So when do we get the May/Peggy fics?
ariestess: Because I’m okay with that.
Shatterpath: that’d be sexy!
Alkmaion: I don´t put cannons to my head, sorry
tristianmakhai: When the MCU finally pulls it’s head out and brings Peggy to the present day
tristianmakhai: But then you’re dealing with Peggy in literally all of the ships
arbitrary_greay: Remember, Sharon Carter totally hero-worships The Cavalry
tristianmakhai: (which is not a bad thing)
arbitrary_greay: I am so okay with Peggy having a harem :3
Shatterpath: PimpDaddy Pegs
Shatterpath: we’ll have to add that in one of the pirate ideas, Tris
ariestess: Is there a problem with Peggy in all the ships? Really? Because yum?
Shatterpath: it must be a spy personality thing. Being able to interface with anyone
Shatterpath: Natasha does that two. When Whedon isn’t be a douche….
ariestess: Probably. Of course, saying that now makes me want to do some weird crossover with BSG. Then again, I blame that on someone’s awesome artwork of May in BSG gear.
tristianmakhai: That artwork was amazing.
ariestess: I saw that MingNa had RTed it and just drooled at teh possibilities.
ariestess: I kinda want to see if I can figure out how to make May an ancestor of the human model for Sharon.
ariestess: Did I just give you ideas, Doggie?
Shatterpath: i feel i should make a dirty joke of some sort
Shatterpath: “Ideas? Is that what the kids are saying now?”
Alkmaion: It´s not the ‘ideas of March’, isn´t it?
Shatterpath: any last thoughts, MCU fans?
arbitrary_greay: please get Runaways and Young Avengers into MCU ASAP
arbitrary_greay: hrm, so it looks like an anime panel would be out due to the age problem
tristianmakhai: BTW, pups, unless you clearly explain the genetic connection between May and Sharon, I’d recommend against it. Dealing with different ethnicities of the actresses
arbitrary_greay: whoops, wrong room
grimorie: anyone excited for the new MCU shows in netflix?
Shatterpath: that would be awesome!
ariestess: Oh, good point re: May and Sharon. And my fuckup. I just made the closest connection… *slaps hand*
xJadedGrlx: yes, especially jessica jones
tristianmakhai: I have got to finish Daredevil, but what I’ve seen so far is good!
tristianmakhai: What impresses me the most is how well they’re quietly working it in.
grimorie: love the shared world aspect of it all!
tristianmakhai: The MCU world building has really been impressive as hell. Even if it is doing my head in trying to get a timeline down!
Shatterpath: it does make for a fascinating shared universe, yes
tristianmakhai: (which: once I have one down that’s usable/editable I’ll share if anyone needs it)
ariestess: That sounds like me trying to come up with plausible OUaT timeline.
xJadedGrlx: haha, good luck with that
tristianmakhai: Worst part is, i am trying to tie down Person of Interest AND the MCU. And then mesh
ariestess: You are a glutton for punishment, my friend.
grimorie: haha oh man
tristianmakhai: I blame Grim. It’s probably not her fault, but I still blame her for most things because she pulls me into things
grimorie: who? me?
arbitrary_greay: didn’t EW put out a timeline for PoI?
arbitrary_greay: although meshing, always fun
grimorie: oh and there’s a timeline in POI wiki too if you need it!
Shatterpath: ok, gang, five mintes until Once Upon a Time
tristianmakhai: It’s in a spreadsheet (easiest to chop and change) though I will upload to google doc or something and make it accessible to anyone who is interested.
grimorie: i have most of Shaw’s timeline down though
tristianmakhai: That is one of my sources, Grim
tristianmakhai: Yeah, I need to steal that 🙂
grimorie: steal away!
tristianmakhai: Sam Wilson’s timeline is what is giving me grief
Shatterpath: anyone with any last minute MCU thoughts?
grimorie: i’m good 🙂
tristianmakhai: More ladies, less bullshit. :p
tristianmakhai: And please: more fic!
Shatterpath: by next year, we’ll have Agent Carter season 2 to look forward to!
ariestess: Very succinct.
arbitrary_greay: I want May to escort Wonder Woman
tristianmakhai: Also: bring back Hartley
tristianmakhai: You want Lucy Lawless in your MCU. you really do.
ariestess: LOL, Lucy Lawless needs to be in all fandoms, lesbihonest.
Shatterpath: go Amy!
tristianmakhai: But a verse that has Atwell, Dormer, and Lawless? And Regan? [swoon]
arbitrary_greay: and Ming Na
ariestess: I’d happily write in that ‘verse 5eva.
tristianmakhai: And Ming-Na. And I am just going o keep going and will shut up now
arbitrary_greay: and Johansson
Shatterpath: hear hear!
arbitrary_greay: and Smulders
Shatterpath: i miss my badass Nat
arbitrary_greay: and Paltrow
tristianmakhai: either way: there are heaps of ladies in this verse, we should play with them all
arbitrary_greay: and Portman
arbitrary_greay: Thor/Buffy crossover pls