Shatterpath: SCC was done a bit better, but it too fell to poor execuition after awhile
Shatterpath: just as Supergirl has!
ThatRumple: supergirl suffers because CW
ariestess: Everything suffers because CW.
ariestess: Even iZombie is starting to get on my nerves.
Shatterpath: No one will argue that the CW is a plauge
Alkmaion: And, not to forget: Life(2008)
ThatRumple: T.T I’m still slaughtered over Riverdale fiasco , thanks CW , how about not baiting again
quietheartedfsc: One minute to Supergirl
ariestess: @Alk: The CW is the network/station involved.
Shatterpath: I still loive the Supergirl universe, but the show ended for me at the end of Alex’s coming out saga
Alkmaion: Calista Wlockheart?
geekgrrllurking: I saw something about a Supergirl Riverdale crossover. I hope it was just a rumour.
ThatRumple: I’m not surprised
geekystorytelling: oh god
ThatRumple: I am hoping for a OUAT/izombie crossover
ariestess: LOL It’s the CW, the crossover is kind of inevitable, no?
Shatterpath: it’s a shame too, because there’s such fantastic potential in both Maggie and Lena as characters
geekystorytelling: fuck the CW
Alkmaion: Thanks, aries. I don´t have all the american station secured on my mind
geekgrrllurking: I do like the crossovers with the other superheroes though
ariestess: Never gonna happen with OUaT/iZombie. Different production companies/networks.
ariestess: The Mouse does NOT share easily
geekystorytelling: thank god for that
ariestess: @Alk: No worries!
Shatterpath: i didn’t watch the second crossover. Mayo-Hell gives me hives, the bastard
geekystorytelling: I just don’t even want to acknothe exists
ThatRumple: I realise it’s different companies but same actors / set up / they share lots for petes sake why not
geekgrrllurking: Havind signed a 2 inch thick contract with the Mouse I can attest to that
geekystorytelling: same geek!!!
ariestess: @Ralst: One of the many nickname for Mon-El.
intherain: Hey all! I just got online and have never been here before–can anyone tell me how this works?
Shatterpath: the a*shole ‘boyfreind’ they had to drag into Second season
fsc_ralst: Yeah, sorry, being slow
Shatterpath: even teh straights hate him
ThatRumple: only Csers like Mon El
geekystorytelling: can we concentrate on the powerful amazing female characters
Shatterpath: aaaanyway, no one here will argue that he’s worthless
Shatterpath: the GOOD parts about the show!
Shatterpath: the ladies, when WE all get our grubby hands on them!
geekystorytelling: did any of u read the latest sanvers season 3 crap?
intherain: @ariestress okay! Cool, thanks. Just wanted to make sure there wasn’t some kind of structure I was missing.
geekystorytelling: seems like flo is in the first 5 episodes and maybe they break up or something
geekgrrllurking: Hi intherain, just jump in, the water is fine
ThatRumple: I heard about Sanvers omg what a disaster that is going to be
Shatterpath: I got dragged down by a rarepair, so I can’t really talk
geekystorytelling: the interview ended saying they are committed to Alex’s romantic future or something
intherain: @ariestress @geekgrrllurking Great, thanks! And hi @Alkmaion!
geekystorytelling: true shatter
Shatterpath: glad for the Supercat crew that Cat came back though!
Shatterpath: Alex is 90% of all I care about in contex to the show, I admit it
geekgrrllurking: I still miss Lucy and only one ep with Vasquez was not nearly enough
geekystorytelling: omg yes
geekystorytelling: bring Lucy back
geekystorytelling: I’d buy a shirt that said that
geekgrrllurking: she’s busy running the desert facility I’m sure
Shatterpath: I have had so much fun in my writin’s with BOTH of them
geekgrrllurking: but couldn’t you tell us that
ThatRumple: I’m going to love though when straight Sanvers shippers hypocrisy comes out though when that Episode airs and they either realise they were played , or show what absolute frauds they really are
Shatterpath: Lucy and Vas are ABSOLUTELY running the desert pit
intherain: When what episode airs?
Shatterpath: Wha Would Lucy Do?
ThatRumple: when they end Sanvers
Alsike: Lucy, my bae ;_;
ThatRumple: they only wrote it apparently for tokenism reasons the bastards
Shatterpath: i hope for the Sanvers fans that maybe it doesn’t happen
geekystorytelling: also they will def be making lena evil
intherain: Woooow wonderful
geekystorytelling: and I am not happy about it
Alsike: well that needs to happen
Shatterpath: yeah, I really dread the lazy cliche of making Lena evil
Alsike: it would be nice if they could manage complexity tho
Shatterpath: it would be nice if they even TRIED
geekgrrllurking: Although, playing devils advocate, because well I"m evil, it would be great to see Alex go through a breakup
Alsike: there are ways to be antagonists without being evil, moment of silence for Astra ;_;
geekystorytelling: listen I am fine with sanvers breakup
Shatterpath: -sniff- Astra….
ThatRumple: moment of silence for Root too then
Alsike: i’m a liar, I love seeing Alex cry
geekystorytelling: as long as they actually get alex dating other women
geekystorytelling: and show it
geekgrrllurking: Alex crying is heartwrenching and amazing
geekystorytelling: I love Chyler
Shatterpath: Alex needs a challenge!
ThatRumple: I don’t think they will it’s the CW
geekystorytelling: rumple you are very correct
Shatterpath: and Chyler is amazing
geekystorytelling: my slogan is
Alsike: i just want Alex to have a f*ing plot, that’s like, PLOT
geekystorytelling: fuck the cw
geekgrrllurking: Alex needs long rides on her bike and crying
Alsike: notuseless romance backdrop
intherain: Plot and more onscreen time with Kara maybe
ThatRumple: I have no faith though because Riverdale
Alsike: all the screen time with Kara
geekgrrllurking: yes, more Kara and Alex time for sure
Shatterpath: well, at least there was enough good stuff early on to build fic universes on
geekystorytelling: no more Kara and alex
Shatterpath: i still read on the regular, because the tenants of the cahracters are sound, DESPITE the stupid network
Alsike: (can we just pretend S2 never happened and open S3 with Kara and Alex processing the fact that Kara was going to suicide and Alex was going to end herself too if that happened? I’m like, processssingg)
geekystorytelling: Kara dancers does not exist anymore
intherain: @geekstorytelling why no more Kara and Alex?
Shatterpath: we need a ‘Kara in a coma and dreamed most of S2’
ThatRumple: because the CW is ending it
intherain: (@Alsike yes, please)
ThatRumple: it was about Tokenism
Shatterpath: that would be a twist that would actually imprive the show
geekystorytelling: they are doing something weird with karas character this season
ThatRumple: that’s all that was just like Clexa
ariestess: If they "Bobby in the shower" it, I’ll laugh my @ss off.
Shatterpath: I dream of it
ThatRumple: Bobby in the shower ?
intherain: @geekstorytelling alright, that makes me even more scared for s3, haha
geekystorytelling: yeah what’s that
geekgrrllurking: Dallas reference Rump
quietheartedfsc: Original Dallas
geekystorytelling: sorry if my responses lag I’m in this on the iPhone app
ThatRumple: for a moment ….ok
ariestess: LOL I’m showing my age again… "Bobby in the shower" is a trope from the original run of Dallas. It was used to "erase"/retcon an entire season.
geekystorytelling: I’m committed to telling you all how much I hate the CW
Alsike: that’s so ballsy
Alsike: i think that needs to happen more
intherain: Wow yeah
intherain: I mean that would be great
geekystorytelling: l word season 7
ThatRumple: and for the record I will be furious if Riverdale pulls a token in season 2 to silence me , because I will rip that apart
Shatterpath: it would be posively CLEVER for that show, unfortunately
intherain: Ha. I am waiting to see what Riverdale decides to do with Jughead’s sexuality before watching
geekystorytelling: I’m pissed they are bringing Maggie’s Dad into season 3
ThatRumple: that’s what I’m talking about
geekystorytelling: they could have done so much to give visibility to homeless queer youth
geekystorytelling: with that storyline
ThatRumple: they won’t give us Ace juggy because sex
Alsike: (the problem is, you need it to fix sh***y writing mistakes, and sh***y writers never sort their shit)
Shatterpath: it’s a weird choise, right? Knowing that he threw maggie out years ago
intherain: Because sex and CW
geekystorytelling: but they didn’t and now they are going to make peace with it or some bs
Alsike: Maggie’s backstory is called No One Wrote Down Anything and they are Making It Up as they Go Along
Alsike: maybe he’s Batman.
geekgrrllurking: lol ALS
geekystorytelling: I know nothing about riverdale
Alsike: I am so checked out of canon, babes
geekystorytelling: just supergirl
ThatRumple: I’m very worried about a season 2 ace minor character rumor fir Riverdale , that is going to hurt and I will not be happy and be screaming at CW and someone please stop me when that happens
Shatterpath: I have my little splinters of canon to enrich my fics with. screw the rest of it
intherain: @Shatterpath that sounds like a great way to deal with canon.
geekystorytelling: what did u all think of the comicon thing
Shatterpath: but I maintain that fic writers have enough to work with if they squint a little
Alsike: Rump, soon you will develop enough ennui to not have the energy to care
Shatterpath: we’ve all fallen for shows/pairings/idea with far less!
intherain: @Shatterpath yeah for sure
Shatterpath: Comicon was a nightmare
Shatterpath: I’m SOOOO glad Chy wasn’t there
geekgrrllurking: I think the comicon thing hurt a lot of fans and it wasn’t handled well at all after the fact
Alsike: but people need to get over it
Alsike: it’s gone on too long and people are using it as an excuse to be spiteful
Shatterpath: she either would have been choking or thrown it down
Shatterpath: we hope
geekgrrllurking: and I too am glad that Chyler wasn’t there
ThatRumple: comic con fiasco was hideous talk about straight privilege right there
Alsike: it’s not like the actors have anything to do with the story, they just have to deal with fandom shit as if they do
ThatRumple: absolutely clueless
geekystorytelling: it made me lose a lot of respect for the actors going into this season
Shatterpath: i don’t think it’s at ALL a coincidence that she’s gone silent. Things must be really awkward onset
Shatterpath: Katie pretty much spelled it out
geekgrrllurking: I lost respect for the actors, but I watch supergirl for the show not the actors.
geekystorytelling: yeah I get that
Shatterpath: yeah separating actor from character is a necessity
geekgrrllurking: I’m more upset about Kara’s lack of character developement to be honest.
Shatterpath: though, I stalled out on writing for over a week after the con
geekystorytelling: I just don’t like supporting people who don’t support me…you know?
Alsike: I am so much more pissed at the writers and the execs
Shatterpath: I couldn’t even look at Kara, y’know?
ThatRumple: I heard it’s pretty deplorable for karas development
geekystorytelling: exactly shatter
intherain: What’s pretty deplorable for Kara’s development?
geekgrrllurking: I hear that Geeky, but Chyler has been so overwhelming positive that I can focus on that
Shatterpath: I finally got past it
geekystorytelling: I get you I met Chyler a few months ago and she was wonderful
geekgrrllurking: Now if they kill off Maggie or Alex, that would end it for me
Shatterpath: good thing too, because I got things still left to do in my ‘verse. LOTS of things
intherain: Ha ha
geekystorytelling: maggie is def moving or something
geekystorytelling: they have to explain floriana absence
geekgrrllurking: Maggie leaving is one thing, killing her is another
Shatterpath: i don’t trust the show to not kill Maggie off, no matter what the exes say
Alsike: lol, I’m writing about the f*ing In-Ze twins, canon? what is that?
Shatterpath: we can only hope for a pleasant surprise
intherain: Yeah, #buryyourgays was so 2016
Shatterpath: ugh, right?
intherain: slash all TV up to this point also
Shatterpath: SLASH ALL THE TV
intherain: But y’know
Shatterpath: screw heteronamatiy!
Alsike: wait, which meaning of slash are we using? both? both is good
intherain: HAHAHA YES slash all the TV!
intherain: PLEASE. All queers, all the time. Great.
geekystorytelling: that’s supposed to be logo
Alsike: this is why I stopped watching TV after they killed Tara and only read fanfiction
Shatterpath: fanfiction has saved my sanity and possibly my life a thousand times over
intherain: Fic is so great.
geekgrrllurking: Fanfiction truly saves us, like queer therapy or something
Alsike: i keep being confused when I try TV– why are there so many men and when is the gay kissing going to happen?
Shatterpath: perfect! Queer therapy
intherain: Like, aside from many of the other wonderful things it does, like… fic is my only model for alternative relationships. Like, of any kind. Queer, poly, queerplatonic, kink…
Shatterpath: i dunno what I would do without it. All that creative energy pushing on my brainpan
intherain: It’s just so helpful. Really comes up when I’m talking to friends who just consume mainstream media.
geekystorytelling: okay so out of left field but….anyone else love the rare ships in supergirl?
geekgrrllurking: At least there are canon lesbians now. We had talked about Xena earlier, we have progressed at least a bit.
Shatterpath: hear hear
Alsike: ha, Supergirl got me started writing polyfic, and then I ran into a friend who told me Harlequin was looking for Triads and I was like . . . HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
intherain: Hahaha nice!
intherain: Yeah, also, what? XD
Shatterpath: I had started leaning towards a poly group that didn’t pan out
geekystorytelling: which poly? director sanvers?
intherain: Canon lesbians are great! If they don’t die it is a bonus (sorry y’all)
Shatterpath: Director Sanvers is a good one, they balance out better
geekgrrllurking: I liked Lucy/Kara for awhile and Lucy/Cat/Kara
intherain: @geekystorytelling There are so many great rare ships in Supergirl
geekystorytelling: I just read a Lucy lena Kara one
Shatterpath: i never leaned to Sanvers, I don’t dislike them at all, jsut meh
geekystorytelling: I know I love them
Alsike: I wrote poly back in season 1 Kara/Lucy/Alex/Cat/Astra (not like, every bar matching)
geekystorytelling: shatterpath got me into alex and lena
Shatterpath: too similiar for my tastes
Shatterpath: -bows- I live to serve!
intherain: Regardless of whatever the fuck canon is doing now, holy fuck it is nice to have a show with SO MANY female characters you can ship in different ways
Shatterpath: and it’s a surprisingly great pairing
Alsike: I did calculations once, and out of 21 fics I had 21 different pairings for Supergirl
Shatterpath: yes, we’re good at looking past the failings of canon and doing our own thing
intherain: Hahahaha wow
intherain: @Shatterpath yeah for sure
geekystorytelling: yeah that’s why supergirl is great
Alsike: Lena/Alex is hot af, I loved writing it
geekystorytelling: so many strong female characters
Alsike: I am still waiting for the Lena/Roulette epic backstory fic tho
geekystorytelling: too bad it was canceled after season 2 ep 8
Shatterpath: I’ll have to check to see if I’ve read yours, my lousy memory handicaps me sometimes
geekystorytelling: I wish more people would write it
geekystorytelling: but that’s me being lazy
ThatRumple: I’m so jealous you all have fic
Shatterpath: greedy! lol
ThatRumple: I don’t have any
Alsike: you did https://archiveofourown.org/works/8589649
Shatterpath: rarepairs are such a weird space to be in
Alkmaion: Than read and review, ruple! It is another big part of the fandom
Shatterpath: I am 200k deep in my rarepair
Alsike: I love my rairepairs
Shatterpath: and plenty more to talk about
ThatRumple: I do write but I’m tired of writing my own stuff
geekgrrllurking: who is your pair Rump?
Alsike: idk why writing MJY is now my thing, but I fucking love MJY
ThatRumple: I want validation from somebody else’s work
intherain: I only have one fic and it is not Supergirl haha but am working on two that just keep getting bigger and bigger (ahhh) so eventually!
intherain: (*two supergirl fics)
Shatterpath: i have to write for myself to save my sanity and creativity. If others like it? Bunus!
geekystorytelling: I have rambling one shots that are not good
ThatRumple: I don’t have a pair , that’s my problem
geekystorytelling: I’m more of a reader than a writer
intherain: @Alsike what’s MJY?
geekystorytelling: but I like to challenge myself to do new things *shrugs*
Alsike: Lucy/Alura (majorly judging you)
intherain: Hahahaha great
geekgrrllurking: thank you! I was sitting here going MJY??
Shatterpath: @Alsike: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! You wrote THAT fic! OMG, I’m an IDIOT
intherain: @Alsike I don’t think I had read it before your cruise ship AU, unless it was another one of your fics I read it in, but it really worked for me!
ThatRumple: I literally posted on Tumblr I’ll pay 75 bucks a fic just for some piece of mind to soothe my pain
geekystorytelling: true I feel like there are quite a few Lucy alura
intherain: @geekystorytelling challenging yourself to do new things is good!
geekystorytelling: haha I run a series on challenging myself
geekystorytelling: so the writing fit
geekystorytelling: rumple what pain
geekystorytelling: what is it u want people to write
Alsike: I first encountered MJY in this: https://archiveofourown.org/works/6871597/chapters/15680893
Alsike: and I was sold
geekystorytelling: sorry the waitress was there so I typed that a bit fast I mean to say: "what is it you were looking for people to write for you to soothe your pain"
geekystorytelling: I hope I didn’t come off as rude! sorry
intherain: @Alsike I have not read that one but it looks great and like it would keep me up till 3am or something with the word count haha
Alsike: Yes. yes this is true.
intherain: Noted. Will plan accordingly.
ThatRumple: my iPod froze sorry
geekgrrllurking: I was into SuperCat, has anyone been reading the Virtual Series, I haven’t and was looking for thoughts on if I should
ThatRumple: aro ace characters is all I’m looking for
ariestess: I just know that, given who’s in charge of the VS, it’ll probably be good?
Shatterpath: i really need to get to the VS, it looks so interesting
intherain: @ThatRumple oh man, that is a hard one. I would love to see more of that too.
geekgrrllurking: the artwork is fantastic, it’s wooing me in
intherain: I am planning to read the Virtual Series!
Alsike: I’ve written Ace/Demi Kalex platonic BDSM? (because lol, that’s just the kind of fic writer I am)
intherain: … I need to watch ep 2 of season 2 first…
geekystorytelling: I started the virtual series but stopped for some reason…lithe writing was great though…I have to be in a particular mood for super cat though
geekgrrllurking: And so much work goes into a VS that I want to support it, but I miss Cat in canon and not ready yet for VS
Shatterpath: I’ll get to it once I have the braincells to do so. As neither pairing is my fave, I’ll be reading for the story! There are some amazing author in there
geekystorytelling: I’m loving the on the high wire
geekystorytelling: season 2 rewrite with director sanvers
geekystorytelling: it’s magnificent
geekgrrllurking: Well, Kalex is my otp, but like SuperCat too
geekystorytelling: but then again I love director sanvers so I’m biased
geekgrrllurking: and with more Cat in season 3 that could be good
intherain: I am getting lots of great recs from this conversation haha
Alsike: yah, I got over SuperCat after too many fandom characterization choices I wasn’t all that into, so I didn’t feel up to reading the VS
geekgrrllurking: problem with writing for a VS is it can burn you out on the couple
ThatRumple: for me it’s more Aro Aces being contentedly single and still getting accepted into a family , that’s a big one for me
geekystorytelling: what I will say about the virtual season is the marketing was phenomenal
geekgrrllurking: so I bet the writers will evenutally move on to other fandoms or pairings
intherain: I think I’m most into Kalex and SuperCat, but end up reading a wide variety of pairings just for the writing
intherain: @ThatRumple that sounds like great fic
Alsike: oooh, good family feels fics are in short supply too
geekystorytelling: I ship alex danvers with everyone
intherain: (good clarification LOL)
geekgrrllurking: well to be honest Geeky so do I, lol
Shatterpath: Give me all the Alex!
geekystorytelling: (glad you approve LMAO)
geekystorytelling: I’m glad you do as well Geek!
Alsike: i would ship Alex with Lilian Luthor :nods:
Shatterpath: the sisters, platonic only, but that’s my personal squick. Carry on!
geekystorytelling: I could see an awesome dark alex in Cadmus
geekystorytelling: rising through the ranks
geekystorytelling: falling for Lillian
geekystorytelling: then again I’m a glutton for AU
Alsike: sounds awesome
intherain: @Shatterpath leaving your personal squick alone but oh man this fandom has given me so many opinions on what counts as incest or not haha
Shatterpath: EvilAlex would be as scary as Evil Peggy in teh Marvel-verse
intherain: Ooh, I have not seen Evil Peggy but that sounds great
Shatterpath: hey, I don’t stop anyone else’s fun
Shatterpath: I did a great AU with Peggy as a mobster in the 30s
intherain: @Shatterpath Oh for sure! Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that
intherain: That sounds like an awesome AU
Shatterpath: I had to sit on it for FOUR MONTHS for a big bang and editted it to DEATH and it might be some of my best writing
geekystorytelling: there’s a great marvel crossover fix
intherain: So many fic recs from this conversation
Shatterpath: you didn’t. I just like to clarify that this is a friendly sandbox.
geekgrrllurking: Doggie: link to 30’s au please sounds awesome
geekystorytelling: alex is besties with Natasha
Shatterpath: I REALLY gotta get my head straightened out on my fantasy-verse Alex/Lena
geekystorytelling: and gets her hands on some super serum
geekystorytelling: it’s like 22 chapters
intherain: @Shatterpath thanks! That is the best kind of sandbox
geekystorytelling: 50k words
geekystorytelling: but it’s kalex so if that’s not ur thing u should skip
intherain: @geekystorytelling I am really enjoying that one too!
geekystorytelling: right? it’s great!
intherain: The crossover works surprisingly well! Also super serum Great
geekgrrllurking: what’s the title Geeky
Alsike: links please!
geekystorytelling: give me a moment
intherain: Also yes please link to 30s AU! @Shatterpath I went to your ao3 to look for it but MAN you write a lot of fic! *super impressed*
Alsike: for all the things!
Shatterpath: Mobster Peggy: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5188844/chapters/11956073
Shatterpath: my muses get… chatty.. when something grabs them by the short and curlies
intherain: Thanks for the link!
Shatterpath: and Ariestess MURDERS me on fic count