geekgrrllurking: I loved Birds of Prey, when I finally watched it on DVD
Alsike: agh, I loved all the birds of prey fic
Shatterpath: there was some AMAZING fic for boP
Shatterpath: i ranted a LOT in the early days of my falling for the SGverse about ‘what is this new fetish with freakin’ superheroes???’
Shatterpath: then remembered BoP
Alsike: haaaaa, superheros never die, they just wash the grit off or fall in the dirt
Shatterpath: Geeky, that’s where the twins came from. Bug too, technically
geekystorytelling: I thought it was stargate
Alsike: i’m always like, I want Barbara Gordon to show up in Supergirl, but no, I want BoP Barbara Gordon to show up in Supergirl
Shatterpath: we could WISH
fsc_ralst: Dina Meyer…. Ahhhhhhh
geekgrrllurking: happy sigh
Shatterpath: then again, I’d like to see Dina Meyer in ANYTHING
geekystorytelling: please feel free to recommend gay superhero media to me
fsc_ralst: I have watched far too many bad movies for that women
wolvie_dk: mmmmmmm… Dina
Alsike: (I wanted her to be working with Maggie to investigate the DEO. I had a _plan_ ;_;)
Shatterpath: even I toyed with using the Birds somehow!
Shatterpath: my twin OCs mentioned that they ‘have friends in other parts of the country’ which was my homage to BoP
Alsike: also, they’re a great small set, because usually once you open the Batfam, omg, you have the entire batfam, but BoP is nice and contained
Shatterpath: good point!
Shatterpath: that can of Batworms would be chaos
Shatterpath: though it’s canon to SG…
Alsike: that _other_ city wears masks!
theg1rl20: It always surprises me that X Men shipping isn’t a bigger thing. I remember bits and pieces from when the movies came out but not a whole lot.
Shatterpath: i loved the comics for a bit in high school, but never got into the movies, oddly
geekystorytelling: I’m a fan of blackhill in terms of marvel
Alsike: oh no, the X-men come up and all of my guilt about my unfinished Emma Frost fics rises tooo
Shatterpath: i like blackhill, just never got an idea for them
ThatRumple: to the Tune of partridge and a pear tree * and black widow still doesn’t have a movie
geekgrrllurking: A Black Widow movie would help
Alsike: oh man, i don’t care, I just really want Jessica Drew to be in the Captain Marvel movie and I know she won’t be and I preemptively cry
Shatterpath: they’d just screw it up
Alsike: as I sit here wearing my homemade spiderwoman t-shirt
geekgrrllurking: Maybe with Wonder Woman successful a Black Widow movie might actually be good
ThatRumple: I’m still wondering why we’re getting a captain marvel movie when Black widow is standing right there not getting any younger
geekystorytelling: as attractive as I find scar jo I’m so up in the air about her as black widow
ThatRumple: no don’t give a new female character and not talk about the one you currently have
Alkmaion: wasn´t there a yahoo x-men femslash group once?
ThatRumple: yes there was
geekystorytelling: that wouldn’t surprise me in the least
Alsike: i was on it
Alsike: there was some AWESOME fic
theg1rl20: I’m sure there was a yahoogroup, yeah.
geekystorytelling: there was a yahoo group for everything
Alsike: (i didn’t post on it, because I was a terrified child, but good times)
ThatRumple: I was a bit cranky about kitty pride being a hot ship topic , she’s ace leave her alone x.x
Alsike: eh, if they made a Black Widow movie they’d have to actually settle on a characterization
fsc_ralst: Just don’t let Whedon write or direct
ThatRumple: fair enough , they like to write her around
geekgrrllurking: amen Ralst
wolvie_dk: Whedon has jumped ship to DC
Alsike: brought his plague rats to DC?
ThatRumple: oi vey
fsc_ralst: Whedon is insidious I don’t trust he wouldn’t worm his way back and ruin her
wolvie_dk: He’s finished the JL movie after Zach left
ThatRumple: can’t joss just be put on time out in a corner with a web show or something so him and his fans stop plaguing mainstream ?
fsc_ralst: Rumour is they’re still trying to stick the film together
geekystorytelling: what about the birds of prey movie they were supposedly making?
wolvie_dk: "Themyscyra – Next on the CW"
Alsike: "a plane of fratboys crashes on the island–watch them, completely despite what would actually happen–_not_ all be tortured to death"
Alsike: I’m just hoping for Gotham City Sirens
geekystorytelling: wait maybe that’s what it was alsike
geekystorytelling: all this BoP talk has me confounded
Alsike: I have shipped Harley/Ivy since I was a wee fandomite
fsc_ralst: but they’re also talking a Harley and Joker twisted romance movie… No, no thank you
Shatterpath: gone old school on ya!
wolvie_dk: And a Joker origin thing
Alsike: the Joker origin thing needs to die.
wolvie_dk: especially if it’s with Jared
fsc_ralst: The Joker needs to die… off screen, no more, he’s done
Alsike: he’s _tired_, let’s move on
Alsike: it’s why I was really enjoying Gotham before I . . . stopped watching TV again. Because I was like, oh, the Penguin? this is new?
Alsike: (I also stopped watching because I loved Fish Mooney too much to not see where it was going)
Shatterpath: the only DC film I’ve seen is Wonder Woman and DAMN was it good!
geekystorytelling: I saw batsman vs superman and suicide squad
geekystorytelling: bvs was awful
theg1rl20: WW was the only good thing about BVS.
fsc_ralst: BVS was terrible except for the glimpses of WW
geekgrrllurking: I think that’s why I enjoy Supergirl, its more light and warm, where as the movies seemed so dark and gritty
fsc_ralst: Suicide Squad was bad but I still loved Harley in it.
geekystorytelling: and suicide squad was good because of Margot Robbie and viola advised
ThatRumple: cringes * I feel like a terrible person but I thought wonderwoman felt like every hero movie ever made , want impressed with the fight scenes because I’m bored with long drawn out hero fight scenes , it felt like a copy and I was expecting something completely different from it I was dissapointed
geekystorytelling: everything else sucked
wolvie_dk: You gotta give props to Zach Snyder – it takes a special set of skill to create an unlikeable Superman
Shatterpath: that’s pretty much what I’ve been hearing. And Bats has never been my thing. Boring!
fsc_ralst: Oh, yeah, Amanda Weller was a great villain, much better than the wiggly witch
geekystorytelling: yeah I loved hating her
geekystorytelling: the joker was AWFUL
Shatterpath: though, when I’m writing in the Supergirl verse, I see the Henry Cavil Supes in my head. Not the weenie they hired for the show.
Alsike: ha, I just cross it over with Lois & Clark
Alsike: or Smallville
fsc_ralst: I want some Diana Prince and Lois Lane scenes
geekgrrllurking: I was disappointed they cast a Superman to be honest. I liked the off screen references, and texts
Shatterpath: that would be awesome!
Alsike: (mostly smallville TBH)
wolvie_dk: WW was a relly good movie, but also very much a copy of the first Captain America
geekystorytelling: I would loveeee Lois Lane on supergirl
geekystorytelling: it was better than the first captain imo
ThatRumple: I couldn’t get into the suicide squad either , I tried , I started it 4 times but the bar scene with joker and I’m done , just no more interest , Jared is terrible and an insult to Heaths mental sacrifice
geekystorytelling: if only because of themyscria
Shatterpath: not unless they bring Lucy back too!
geekystorytelling: I still don’t get why they completely wrote her off
geekystorytelling: and max lord
geekystorytelling: not even wrote off
geekystorytelling: just disappeared
Shatterpath: and it was very weird
Shatterpath: like, I loooooooooooved despising Max Lord, but at least he was INTERESTING
fsc_ralst: The SG writers did a good coming out storyline and then went home and let their pet cockateal write the rest of the season
geekystorytelling: maybe Jenna was like fuck the cw
geekystorytelling: I can respect that
Shatterpath: yes and yes
Alsike: i got so upset with the Alura recast because I’d been headcasting Erica Durance as Lois in it, and then suddenly things got incesty in a way I had not prepared for
ThatRumple: Thankyou I didn’t want to say it but yes it felt like a copy of cap America
Alsike: (while writing MJY)
geekystorytelling: I am awful with actors
geekystorytelling: I’m lucky I know the people we have been talking about for the most part
fsc_ralst: Apart fro it being set during a world war I don’t really get the Cap comparison
Shatterpath: it promises to be a weird 3rd season
geekystorytelling: yeah agreed
geekystorytelling: and it’s world war 1 which is sooooo different
geekystorytelling: because the sides aren’t as clear
Alsike: me neither, I mean, they both had an aesthetic? but like, that’s all I could see
geekystorytelling: and there are bigger questions about what is evil
geekystorytelling: agreed alsike
Shatterpath: it was surface similarities to me. The films read completely unique in their executions
Alsike: if they’d just hit it home and not had Ares actually be real, and instead made mankind take f*ing responsibility for the messes they got themselves into, I would have been 100% O.O
wolvie_dk: Set during a world war, steve/peggy, howling commandoes/ww’s group, frees a village/prisoners, ares/red skull
wolvie_dk: it’s mainly the storyline of both films
Shatterpath: a perfect example of how we all take different things from a project!
geekystorytelling: I get that but that’s honestly like only the last third of the film
geekystorytelling: that’s what I took anyway
geekystorytelling: everyone’s entitled to their own opinion! 🙂
Alsike: and the pacing and character arcs are very different
ThatRumple: I think I was expecting an entirely different human approach from Wonder Woman and nah …, let’s blame Greek mythology
wolvie_dk: don’t get me wrong, I still really like the movie and I love the fact that it is the biggest hit in the DCEU
Shatterpath: ain’t THAT the truth!
ThatRumple: just like cap America blamed Norse myth
Alsike: i think part of what was remarkable about it was that it was a straight up superhero movie
Alsike: the writers didn’t go–but a woman, and fall over their own feet
Alkmaion: Does Smallville has a good female cast to write good femslash?
ThatRumple: I love Chloe
Alsike: I love Lois on smallville So Damn Much
theg1rl20: As long as it doesn’t involve Lana
Alsike: and even Lana grew on me when she went badass and married Lex to find out his secrets
Alsike: (Clark/Lana is just So Bad, it makes both of them worse)
Alkmaion: interesting. maybe I have to watch
geekgrrllurking: oh, so who else thinks that General Antiope and Menalippe are married and that’s how Menalippe is Diana’s aunt? Is it just me? that running to dying Antiope is too queer to be anything else
Alsike: that’s totes canon, rt?
geekgrrllurking: Is it? I keep reading that they are supposed to be sisters. As if
Alsike: she hasss a sister
geekystorytelling: my favorite rl game: sisters or lovers?
ThatRumple: I appreciated the boyfriend dying , seeing Steve die like cap America was amusing to me
ThatRumple: yeah Steve go down with that plane like Steve will in the next war
Alkmaion: @gee: As the great Kosh would say: Yes!
geekgrrllurking: lol Geeky Kalex much?
Alsike: (my favorite fanfiction game: sisters _and_ lovers? can I do it?)
geekystorytelling: lmao kalex is a whole different story
geekystorytelling: for me I’ll be walking in the village trying to figure out if those girls are together or if they are sisters or what
theg1rl20: Some people see Jessica Jones/Trish Walker as sisters. I very much do not.
fsc_ralst: Jessica and Trish are future Mrs and Mrs Jones-Walker
geekgrrllurking: really? I haven’t watched much Jessica Jones, but I thought they were canon ex gf
ariestess: Ugh. I watched Jessica Jones finally. Mostly because of Robin Weigert. I won’t be tuning in for S2. I just cannot get into Jessica.
wolvie_dk: canon step-sisters, I think
ariestess: Canon foster sisters.
theg1rl20: Everyone who watches thinks they’re ex-lovers in the first ep.
ariestess: Trish’s mom took in Jessica as a foster sitch basically. Or at least, that ‘s the way I read the canon presentation.
fsc_ralst: Trish’s mother took in a teenage Jessica for publicity. Not sisters.
theg1rl20: @ariestess Jess is my kind of superhero. I love her.
geekgrrllurking: really? WTF people. My femslash goggles must be on too tight
fsc_ralst: They’re portrayed as exes even though they’re not
theg1rl20: @geek No, the canon gifsets give off that impression. Very much so.
Alsike: they have too much baggage for nothing to have happened
geekgrrllurking: well that’s queerbaitish
ariestess: Now, I’m not saying that they can’t have gotten a bit sapphic, but the canon showed Trish’s mom taking Jess in on a foster basis.
geekgrrllurking: I couldn’t get into the show though, although I hear its good mostly
theg1rl20: Trish’s mother is a monster who only wanted publicity. It was never to give Jess a home or Trish a sister. It was good PR.
ariestess: I didn’t much care. Like I said, I was there for Robin Weigert. She was the doc that, uh… won’t be returning in S2.
geekgrrllurking: and the new Defenders looked interesting but I was leery
Alsike: i don’t find any show that ends with a key broken emotional "I love you" between women to be anything but omg, yess
theg1rl20: I honestly don’t see it as queerbaiting in this instance.
Alsike: not at all
theg1rl20: Everyone was in agreement that Trish and Jess’s relationship was the core of the show, and will continue to be.
geekgrrllurking: ok, that’s fair enough
theg1rl20: Whether you read it as sisterly, friendly or otherwise, they mean the world to each other and that is rare.
Alsike: if we can get epic love stories like that, i don’t care if they say they’re platonic, I’m there
theg1rl20: Yes, exactly, it was a love story. It ended with an ‘I love you’ and it was beautiful.
fsc_ralst: Is there a lot of Jess/Trish fic out there?
theg1rl20: 273 fics on AO3.
theg1rl20: But a lot of them are just the ship bundled in with a lot of others.
fsc_ralst: *makes another note to check out fic*
theg1rl20: As some superhero verses tend to have.
theg1rl20: There are a few really good ones.
fsc_ralst: Any recs?
Alkmaion: what she said
Alsike: i know this is the top one and obvious, but I LOVE IT: https://archiveofourown.org/works/5275235/chapters/12173645
theg1rl20: YES! That’s the one I was gonna rec.
theg1rl20: It’s great.
fsc_ralst: Noted, thanks.
Alkmaion: Any stories with a slow relationbuilding?
geekgrrllurking: ooh it does look good
Alkmaion: And thanks as well
wolvie_dk: I lilked that one
Alsike: fics that can manage to be tropey and also so authentic to the characters’ pain are just ;_;
theg1rl20: I’m rubbish at reccing off the top of my head.