ariestess: Okay, so welcome to the Once Upon a Time panel!
ariestess: Panelists, please change your font to bold red [like mine]. Everyone else, please use black text…
ariestess: Okay, first hte ground rules. You MUST raise your hand for questions. The mods [those of us with an @ in front of our names] will keep track of the questions for everyone.
ariestess: Okay, panelists, please introduce yourselves. I’ll go first. I’m AJ, aka ariestess, aka A. Magiluna Stormwriter. I’ve written a handful of things in the OUaT ‘verse, among other things. I’m your moderator for this panel.
Ravenfairy00: Hi ariestess. fangirl squee
damelola: Hi, I’m Lola, though you may know me as damelola/fictorium – I’ve written, well, a bit for the OUAT fic community!
writetherest: Yaaay, Lola!
shesgottaread: YAY, Lola!
giftofamber: Yay Lola
DanieXJ: I’m DanieXJ aka Danie, I’ve also written a bunch of OUaT stuff recently, although I have lots of other stuff too
chilly-flame: Hi all, I’m chilly flame. I’m somewhat new to OUAT but have a few stories in my collection, and hopefully will have more to add soon!
damelola: And hi/squee to AJ for looking after us all
Aquila1nz: yay to more chillyflame stories!
shesgottaread: Yay, Danie!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: okay, so I’ll just squee the entire time all of you are introducing yourselves cause that’s what fangirls do, right? HI!
shesgottaread: and to Chilly!
giftofamber: yay to more chilly flame stories!
chilly-flame: hi panelists and readers!
damelola: I’m squeeing about Chilly too.
ariestess: All right, so let’s get this panel going with the OUaT femslashy goodness!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Chilly_flame I nearly passed out when I saw you wrote for OUAT
ariestess: Shatterpath, you have the first question.
Shatterpath: Where can I get my own Emma?
chilly-flame: and writers who are not panelists too! okay, i’m squeeing also.
AlexReading: here we go – http://twitter.com/LanaParrilla/status/224217454073753601
damelola: This is a glorious day for the Swan Queen nation, am I right?
Ravenfairy00: exactly! i screamed literally so loud i scared animals
giftofamber: so right!
thebronzey: *fist pumps*
alezabee: Ahhhh that is amazing!
ariestess: *facehoof* Doggie, you need to behave. *is partners with Shatterpath*
Aquila1nz: argh, can’t follow links on my tablet
writetherest: I am totally dead.
ariestess: But, you know, if Shatterpath gets her own Emma, I NEED my own Regina.
Shatterpath: Pfft, jsut givin’ out some Emma love since you got Reg covered! LOL
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Can I have my own Red then?
giftofamber: Aquila: It’s the pic Lana tweeted of herself and JMo that JMo RTed
Shatterpath: I have to say that Red has become really, really interesting!
ariestess: That’s entirely possible. Okay, Otakugamer01, you have the next question.
Ravenfairy00: seriously one of the best things ever. i’m selling my soul to go to sdcc next year.
AlexReading: yap the pic is real, an hr ago on twitter.
Otakugamer01: so many new characters being introduced in season 2, from what you’ve already heard of which ones are you already planning on using in your fics?
Shatterpath: ooo, good one!
ariestess: Good question!
thebronzey: my friend is at sdcc right now… a pox upon her
ariestess: As for me, it’ll depend on how the characters are worked into the show and how they interact with Regina.
DanieXJ: personally I generally start my fics after the episodes, something in them prompts my brain to go… hmmm… so, I’m not sure.
DanieXJ: Hook sounds interesting though
ariestess: All of my fic interests lie entirely with Regina.
damelola: ooh, I think it’ll depend on whose side they end up on – Mulan and Aurora both intrigue me,
Aquila1nz: Mulan is definitely interesting, if they don’t stuff her up
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’m sad about Aurora joining because Maleficent is gone. (sniffle)
Shatterpath: I have yet to write something, as my brain is currently annexed by a different fandom, but I’d like to!
chilly-flame: I was thinking about that today, how difficult it must be to manage all the characters on the actual show. I will primarily focus on Emma and Regina (and Henry) and folks from season 1 for a while
damelola: And while I adore Regina I’d like to find another ship for Emma I can also get behind (I ship Regina with everyone)
daemoni: I have to go but I am saving the session
chilly-flame: But if they go in a Miller’s Daughter direction I will definitely want to focus on that!
ariestess: Thanks to chilly_flame, I am now starting ot have thoughts of Regina/Emma/Ruby.
Aquila1nz: Ruby can be slashed with anyone!
xraex21: that’s hottness overload for me
Shatterpath: hell yes! Pack bonding RULES
DanieXJ: I just want Emma to be Daniel reincarnated darnit…
xraex21: i can’t handle it
writetherest: Red Swan Queen heck yes!
damelola: Well as AH said of Maleficent today: we didn’t see a bidy
damelola: *body, sorry
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Ruby/Red is awesome. My new favorite is RedQueen, though I’ll have to check out this Red Swan Queen
ariestess: @DanieXJ :: I’ve had that thought myself once or twice.
chilly-flame: i had a good time with red swan queen. obv.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: true, no body no death. She MUST come back. She’s my favortie to write with Regina. I like exploring their friendship and what might have been between them in a romance.
damelola: I feel like I’m a bad Regina fan for not wanting Daniel anywhere near Swan Queen. Although I have read it done in a lot of stories.
Shatterpath: No, not bad, it sounds like a hard plot thread to do
ariestess: I like Swan Queen #1, Stable Princess #2.
DanieXJ: I think if the writers do it well…. but, I have no doubt that they won’t do it. I love Swan Queen, but… don’t hold out hope that it will actually happen on the show
chilly-flame: i feel crazy for not noticing that you only get one true wuv in FTL. i think that is crap. and also they won’t be able to sustain it.
damelola: Also I think that’s maybe part of why they’re not going back to FTL (yet) – they change the rules by living here, and that’s a LOT of adjusting
xraex21: thankfully they aren’t IN ftl
chilly-flame: swan queen would not happen on the show, but regina never finding love or redemption through it? too horrible.
Ravenfairy00: yeah but true loves kiss can do anything but she couldn’t save daniel so what if he wasn’t her one true love
writetherest: I agree with that. And it does make me wonder then if Daniel really was her ‘one true love’.
alezabee: that’s what I think
chilly-flame: yes, lola! good point.
Aquila1nz: i think Emma and Regina need to kiss to test this
Shatterpath: Raven- Good point!
giftofamber: I agree with Aquila
alezabee: That’s what sold me on Swan Queen, the idea that Emma could be Regina’s true love and that’s how she breaks the curse
ariestess: Ravenfairy00 :: That’s something I’ve toyed with, too.
damelola: maybe fic writers think this way more – we look for what gives more stories to tell. Going back to FTL reduces them, in a way
DanieXJ: I’m good with anything, as long as Swan… and Queen end up. (if it’s Red and Swan or Red and Queen I’m okay with that too)
ariestess: Okay, xraex21, you have the next question.
xraex21: With Season 2 promising new villains (ie the captain hook trailer – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEqxYcyx6E) how do you think this will effect Regina’s moral alignment and her interaction with the "good" characters? Are you worried she might get pushed to the back to make room for more villains or do you think she might step forward to confront them?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lots of jokes about Emma kissing everyone to break the curse one by one.
ariestess: Another excellent question!
Aquila1nz: I can just see EMma’s face after 7 dwarves in a row
Shatterpath: Poor Emma
damelola: http://instagr.am/p/NEvqdaFWdv/ – a new Jen/Lana pic!
ariestess: I haven’t seen the trailer yet. Been slightly busy with something else today. LOL! But I’ll be watching it tonight.
DanieXJ: I hope that they keep her in the real world mode if you know what I mean. Not all bad, or good, but real.
damelola: I would like to see Regina get some support/a posse. At the moment it’s her vs Gold vs everyone. That’s not sporting
Shatterpath: IT would be excellent to see Regina get her boundaries pushed
chilly-flame: i would be pretty surprised if regina gets pushed out of the way for anyone.
DanieXJ: yeah, lola, I agree, support would be good
chilly-flame: i like to think the show runners have noted the love for our queen and want to hang on to that. not to the detriment of others
Ravenfairy00: i don’t think emma kissing everyone would work. you have to really love them for the kiss to do anything. but its fun to think about nonetheless.
chilly-flame: but i know that even in shows where she appeared only sparingly, she packed a punch.
ariestess: Regina won’t let anyone push her around. Except maybe Cora and Gold.
nallus_: be still my fangirl heart
damelola: I agree, AJ. Regina will front up to other villains, not back away
chilly-flame: i hope regina will step forward and confront villains!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’d almost hope that Regina could HELP the ‘good’ guys against some of the villians, even if she is doing it for selfish reasons
xraex21: She’s so isolated…how long can ANYONE last like that.
damelola: And Chilly, any show that doesn’t get every possible minute out of Lana is wasting a wonderful resource, I agree. She’s such an impact player
Aquila1nz: yes, i’d love some forced to work together storylines
xraex21: That’s what I’m worried about
ariestess: ITA, Lola! Not using Lana to her fullest extent is a travesty.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I mean, LOOK at what SwanQueen did when they were forced to work together the first time. EPICNESS
chilly-flame: Working together, resulting in huddled together for warmth. Regina and Emma. I can see it now…
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I look forward to them having to work together again.
Aquila1nz: fwiw that final shot of regina at the window last season said she was definitely still in the game. magic
DanieXJ: or for one have to save the other through burning fire, that’d be good…
xraex21: We just need to find every elevator in StoryBrooke….
ariestess: Okay, and now BetweenLove_n_Hate has the next question.
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damelola: I’m still obsessed with Emma’s instant ‘what do we do?’
Ravenfairy00: i think it depends on Henry, how Regina might act in season 2. if he truly rejects her she could break completely.
damelola: natural alliance tere
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Does anyone have any ideas on what could have happened to Cora? Do you think she might be the Queen of Hearts? And would you like to see her return as a villian for this season?
chilly-flame: Yes, and Yes. times a thousand.
Aquila1nz: damn i have trouble remmeberng what is canon and what is fic
ariestess: If Henry totally rejects Regina, it will kill her. And I’ve a feeling Emma will kick his butt for it.
ariestess: What a GREAT question!
displacedwarrior: I think she’s the Queen of Hearts
Ravenfairy00: i do as well.
xraex21: Emma is a bit of a coward…I’m not sure she can fully stand up to Henry
Aquila1nz: i really hope she’s the queen of hearts
damelola: I’m pretty sold on her being the Queen of Hearts. And BH is confirmed for three eps in s2
DanieXJ: I try not to think about Cora too much… and her being the Queen of hearts just seems so… not surprising, I don’t know
thebronzey: she’s the queen of hearts in my head
DanieXJ: perhaps I’ve watched too many fantasy shows now
xraex21: Danie…no that is the obvious choice
damelola: I rewatched hat trick the other day and the hair above the veil is pretty identical to Cora’s in Stable Boy /nerd
Ravenfairy00: but its weird casue she became queen of hearts after regina married leopold.
chilly-flame: I am convinced that she’s the queen of hearts. I am desperate for good exploration of that.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Awesome. I didn’t know she’d been confirmed for the episodes this season.
ariestess: Cora as Queen of Hearts is interesting, but a little "trite" perhaps.
chilly-flame: mostly i want to see her as she relates to regina.
damelola: and the writers mentioned Cora today, confirming a popular fan theory.
damelola: But I don’t want to spoil too much if people don’t want that?
thebronzey: not trite if there’s a good story behind it
ariestess: Whisper it to me, Lola!
Ravenfairy00: spoil woman
chilly-flame: I hear you lola, i wondered the same thing
DanieXJ: go for it lola
Shatterpath: no! No spoilers!
thebronzey: all the spoilers!!
thebronzey: *raises broom*
xraex21: spoilers are your friends
giftofamber: post to tumblr and tag it "spoiler"
ariestess: Ahaha! Thank you, Lola! And I called that the INSTANT I met Cora.
Ravenfairy00: technically is it a spoiler if everyone knows who watches anything about the sdcc panel.
Aquila1nz: damn, *wants the spoiler*
CyberWoolf: yay for spoilers
shesgottaread: *wants to be spoiled*
damelola: it IS all over tumblr and twitter already, but whisper or IM is probably better for now
ariestess: Okay, I’ve sent the spoiler in a whisper to a couple peple already.
CyberWoolf: here too please
nallus_: *spoil me*
ariestess: Okay, and now Aquila1nz has the next question.
sinadino77: I’m like milk….waiting to be spoiled
Shatterpath: I have to admire the track that Disny has taken with this show
Aquila1nz: How do people feel about stories that get really quite dark, about Regina? Because if you really look at her there s a lot of dark (much a I love schmoopy happy ever after kidfic). Do you minimise it or revel in it?
DanieXJ: Depends on what mood I’m in. If I’m in a bad mood, then Regina
DanieXJ: Regina’ll cut someone, if I’m in a good mood, she’ll be puppies and flowers…
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’ve done both. I’ve minimalized it in A Bounty but am going to play it up in How it Ends
Shatterpath: I’m not an angst fan, unusualy, I know
chilly-flame: I admire people who can go there. I tend to write Regina suffering, but I will admit that adding harm toward others is a challenge in my own stories.
ariestess: It’s a mood thing for me. My Regina muse happens to be an angst-wallower.
damelola: I am torn, personally about dark fic. Regina has a lot of darkness in her, but sometimes it’s done ‘for the sake of it’.
AlexReading: define dark?
ariestess: I don’t like angst/dark for the sake of angst/dark. If it’s got a purpose, I’m all for it.
thebronzey: I find it hard to buy that wickedly dark Regina is also terribly in love with Emma… it aggravates me when people try to mix the two
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I guess it depends on what road you want your story to go. But I’ve enjoyed a lot of the darker fics that really do explore it well. The Girl Who Would Be Queen, is epic with it but deals with it very well
DanieXJ: I think the darkness should always have a point though, it shouldn’t just be violence, or angst or whatever for the hell of it
Aquila1nz: yes, i’m halfway through that
damelola: I find certain ‘darker’ traits OOC for Regina, too. It can be written well, but sometimes the psychology is off, which throws me off
ariestess: The Girl Who Would Be Queen was a PHENOMENAL story.
Aquila1nz: and it’s not the darkest i’ve read
chilly-flame: I agree Lola.
ariestess: And yes, I totally agree with you, Lola.
DanieXJ: @Lola, I think that some stories try to go for ‘mean’ with the dark, where I see Regina as more of a depressed dark
damelola: That’s interesting Danie, I tend to flip her the other way. I don’t think Regina actually knows how depressed she is
giftofamber: ITA Lola
DanieXJ: Maybe, she doesn’t know, but I think she is. After all, every time something starts to go right, something else comes along and punches her in the nose (metaphorically)
ariestess: ITA Lola. Regina has NO idea how depressed she is because she ignores/represses it.
chilly-flame: I think if she ever felt a real moment of happiness, only then would she realize the depth of her misery
damelola: she’s still living in the anger stage of her grief
Shatterpath: Admitting to weakness would break her
ariestess: ITA, chilly_flame
damelola: it feels like to me.
chilly-flame: because she’s lived in this pain for so long, yes lola
Aquila1nz: yes, she created all of storybrooke for her happily ever after, but she’s not that happy, even preEmma
damelola: yes, Chilly. Exactly, painfully that
Shatterpath: Look how she reacted to Henry turning away from her, especially in teh finale
damelola: she’s kind of like a walking bruise, and every so often someone presses down on it and all the blood rushes to the surface again
damelola: she never gets to heal
thebronzey: Regina doesn’t strike me as mean as some people portray her… she’s very nuanced and sad
chilly-flame: i loved that meta discussion on tumblr, about Regina trapped in the stages of grief. just really good stuff.
writetherest: ugh the walking bruise, YES.
ariestess: She’s constantly trying to recreate teh one thing that made her happy as a child :: her relationship with her father. But it never quite happens and she can’t stop trying. Giving up would be admitting that she can’t be happy.
ariestess: @chilly_flame :: Do you have a link for that meta?
chilly-flame: I really wrestle with her father relationship. because I think there is some element of resentment that actually allowed her to kill him.
damelola: very true AJ – if Regina turns around after all this chaos and says ‘oops, it didn’t work’ I don’t know how she’d cope with that
chilly-flame: I’ll see what i can find–i think one of the conversations came from TWOP and then expanded. hold…
ariestess: *nods* This curse was what she based her entire life on, and the lives of how many others? If she admits to failing, it will kill her.
damelola: I agree, Chilly. I don’t think she loves him unconditionally, that’s for sure. He let her down a lot, and I think drawing on THAT let her take his heart.
ariestess: Oh no, she didn’t love him uncondtionally. She doesn’t know how to do that because no one did it for her.
chilly-flame: I think the dad thing relates to the fact that he stood by while she suffered.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: @Chilly yes, I agree. I think a part of her did resent him. In my opinion for not being strong enough to get her and him away from Cora
chilly-flame: he may not have had the power to protect her, but it’s still not fair.
damelola: like, my take on Hat Trick is that it’s at least partly about ‘winning’ over the QoH(Cora)
giftofamber: @chilly the fact that everyone, including her father, stood by while she suffered
xraex21: Not gonna lie. He kind of deserved getting his heart taken…it’s one of the few things he ever really did for her and it wasn’t even active on his part.
writetherest: I agree, Chilly. Especially after that line "now you’re trying to protect me"
ariestess: *stares, gobsmacked* Holy crap! I think I just found out WHY Regina hit me so hard. Damn… Now I have to deal with that. *headdesk*
chilly-flame: Regina and her dad were just pawns in Cora’s path to glory. poor bbys.
damelola: yes, @writetherest, there was a LOT of bitterness in that line
giftofamber: But I think the laws of FTL meant there was no way she could change. Storybrooke however, all bets were off.
chilly-flame: yes, writetherest. so upsetting.
ariestess: Okay, Otakugamer01, you have the next question.
DanieXJ: That’s what I love about the show in general. In real life, life’s not fair… and in the OUaT world life’s not fair either…
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Otakugamer01: anyone else looking forward to the Charming family reunion, and the first post-curse breaking interaction between Emma and Regina?
Ravenfairy00: hell yeah
Shatterpath: should be hilarious and heartbreaking
Aquila1nz: omg yes!
writetherest: CHARMING FAMILY REUNION. I mean… yes.
ariestess: Oh, that’s gonna be a level of awkward that NO ONE can fathom.
xraex21: how do you even broach that subject
DanieXJ: I guess, I dread every new season of OUaT just as I dread every new season of R&I
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Oh I’m really looking forward to that.
damelola: I think Emma is probably going to ‘run’ from her parents for a bit
chilly-flame: I’m looking forward to it. I have NO idea how they’ll pull it off.
Aquila1nz: oh, i’d dread R&I way more
damelola: I don’t think it’s going to be straight up happy for her
xraex21: nothing is straight up happy for anyone on that show
Aquila1nz: for a wonder, OUAT has *less* redshirts than R&I
DanieXJ: I don’t think that there’ll be happiness anywhere for awhile in the second season
ariestess: I’m looking forward to seeing how they pull it off, but that’s one hot mess that is just burning to be let out.
Ravenfairy00: i bet emma and henry run into snow mm and david first.
Shatterpath: Lola- Emma is totally gonna run off!
damelola: according to Ginny today the scripts are great for the first few eps.
DanieXJ: I can’t wait to see what happens to Red!!! (Still think they should give her a girlfriend… )
damelola: I wonder if Red will get her wolfiness back with magic’s return?
ariestess: Just keep Whale away from Red. And all of the women, actually. He’s a skeevy bastard.
writetherest: there’s a can of worms
DanieXJ: That would make a…. frenetic first episode
BetweenLove_n_Hate: DanieXJ I TOTALLY agree with you!
xraex21: @ariestess WHO IS WHALE…it’s driving me nuts
DanieXJ: *cough* should name her phelan *cough*
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Lol I’m writing a RedQueen where Red DOES get her wolfiness back with the magic…lol on the first night cause it’s a full moon.
shesgottaread: but I agree
ariestess: @xraex21 :: I’ve no clue who he is. It’s driving me nuts, too.
Ravenfairy00: but magic is unpredictable so should be even more interesting.
thebronzey: Dr. Frankenstein
writetherest: there’s speculation that he could be Captain Hook, but IDK.
xraex21: @ariestess: I’m trying to remember all the skeevy FT characters and I can’t figure it out
Thewhitestars: it’s got to have something to do with water
AlexReading: @AJ peter pan
Ravenfairy00: from cpt hook to a doctor though.
Shatterpath: IT has to be something Pinochio related
thebronzey: James Whale was the director of the original Frankenstein… sooooo *shrug*
nallus_: hook me thinks
xraex21: is that a disney lisence though bronzey?
thebronzey: pay no attention to me… I’m insane lol
Thewhitestars: Triton? lol Ariels dad
DanieXJ: is Frankenstein public now?
xraex21: we need to get him in the lake and check
xraex21: oh it should be…
thebronzey: yeah… I think it’s public domain like Alice in Wonderland
xraex21: I forgot that
ariestess: I’m leaning toward Pinocchio-based character for Whale.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I thought he might be the Witch Doctor
Shatterpath: Everyone in Storybrook’s last names have somehting to do with who they really are
DanieXJ: ooh, maybe he’s lancelot or something. Lancelot always creeped me out
ariestess: And xraex21, you have the next question.
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xraex21: How do you deal with the fact that Regina has murdered people? How does it affect her relationships in your stories?
ariestess: Good question!
DanieXJ: *Grumble* yeah…. the killing. *grumble* *sigh*
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I have blatantly ignored her murdering Graham in all of my stories thus far
thebronzey: I’ve rewritten all her murders in my head… she’s like Lucy Diamond at this point
chilly-flame: It’s a challenge! I have written it a few ways–1) no one knows, and 2) they say, "let’s deal with that later" or 3) "we already dealt with it so let’s move on"
ariestess: I admit that I haven’t dealt with it. YET. It’ll come up at some point. My Regina muse and I have some really interesting things planned, if we can work out the logistics.
DanieXJ: @xraex21, I try to do a Xena sort of thing, but probably don’t write it well
damelola: excellent question. I… generally have her express some remorse? At least on a personal level. But I usually imply that Emma can meet her halfway on the ‘doing bad things’ front. Or I try to.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: though she is mentioned to have killed others before, they’re faces we don’t know and have less attachment to and in her mind she was doing it to better her cause. I mean LOOK at Red. She’s killed people. But she’s still considered a ‘good’ character. Hell the GOOD guys MAKE her kill people for them
DanieXJ: Actually, I’m trying to figure out what to do in Promise the Stars… currently she’s sitting in the jail cell… heh…
damelola: but usually the murdering is viewed as a symptom of her pain and lack of control in her own life. An extreme reaction that she’ll be punished for, but humanely.
chilly-flame: I doubt I’ll ever do anything that really addresses it in a serious way, unless I do a "Regina is jailed" fic.
chilly-flame: I like to imagine that if she redeems herself, the citizens of storybrooke will accept that as doing her penance
ariestess: I think the difference, for most people, between Red and Regina is that when Red is the wolf, she doesn’t have control. Regina, theoretically, has full knowledge of what she’s doing and does it anywya.
chilly-flame: like if she saved them all from something super bad.
DanieXJ: Well, we saw her basically kill Leopold…
damelola: but grief is an altered state in a way, too
Ravenfairy00: yeah but leopold was a jerk
xraex21: @ariestess…yeah but red can CHOOSE to be the wolf when she takes off her cloak…just like regina using magic
ariestess: @Danie :: Ah, she just masterminded Leopold’s death. She didn’t actually kill him. Genie did htat.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: But it’s hinted that Red DOES have control that night she attacks the castle because she’s doing it to help Snow get james out of the dungeon
writetherest: I feel like, for me, the people that she’s killed – that we know of at this point – were all, at least in her mind, justified killings
ariestess: @xraex21 :: But for the longest time, she didn’t know that because Granny didn’t tell her. Once she knew, that was a different story.
damelola: also a very good point, BetweenLove_n_Hate!
DanieXJ: still murder… ’cause, she most definitely made genie do it
damelola: killing Peter is not on Red, I’d say, because of that. But killing/wounding guards is a conscious choice it appears
xraex21: @ariestess – true. totally different character developments…and good childhood vs. bad
damelola: Red had love and support, Regina didn’t.
writetherest: @damelola – YES!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: that is true, and she’s accepted by her friends because they see it as a ‘condition’ but it’s also a condition they use to help themselves
ariestess: Plus, once she knows what she can do as the wolf, if Red takes off the cloak, she is fully aware of what she can do and is respnsible for it.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I agree
xraex21: the question that always gets me is WHY regina doesn’t get any support as a child…why is she ignored when FTL is constantly helping those in need
ariestess: @Lola :: Good point. And Regina learned how to do her worst from Cora.
xraex21: it’s like she was set up to fail
chilly-flame: Graham’s the only one I am really irritated about. I question why the writers did that. Was Jamie Dornan only supposed to doa limited run?
ariestess: Because she had a destiny to fulfill.
damelola: I think Jamie’s acting limited his run
DanieXJ: @Lola, LOL
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I kinda agree on that one lola
writetherest: @xraex21 – I firmly believe that everything Regina has done is because Rumpel has manipulated it, so that she would cast the curse
ariestess: @BetweenLove_n_Hate, you have the next question.
damelola: and again, the implication today is that Regina’s destiny/choices are possibly not of her own making, as fandom has been yelling since Stable Boy
Aquila1nz: i agree, writetherest
damelola: Cora is the Miller’s daughter. Cora made deals.
xraex21: @writetherest – yeah some evil hand seems to always be clutching her
chilly-flame: me three
DanieXJ: y’all are really giving Regina the benifit of the doubt. I feel so mean about how I’m writing her now…
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Oh, my question was going to be about why do you think the citizens of Storybrooke accept Red killing people but not Regina killing others for her cause. So it’s kinda been answered already.
Aquila1nz: but you can fight destiny
giftofamber: I agree. We don’t know the deal Cora made, but she hinted it was a big one.
ariestess: @Lola :: I feel that way completely. Cora made her choices and Regina got the shaft. Kind of like Snow made her choices and Emma got the shaft.
damelola: niiiiice parallel, AJ
damelola: (watch me steal that in a story now)
writetherest: @AJ – yes yes yes
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Not just one deal, but SEVERAL deals. "You don’t know the deals I had to make"
chilly-flame: Ugh, CORA!
AlexReading: different kind of choices thought.
damelola: God, I really want to see Emma asking Snow why, in nine months, they didn’t find some other solution. Did they TRY?
Shatterpath: And Snow is surprisingly not all sunshine and puppies in this show
ariestess: Neither of them had ANY choice in how their paths began. Both tried to fight it initially, but ultimately, they had to succumb to it.
xraex21: @shatter- THANK GOD
AlexReading: though, i ,ean.
writetherest: Which is why I think they’re endgame!
writetherest: because they’re the only ones who can truly understand each other on that level
xraex21: they’re my end game – which is oddly traditional for me
damelola: That is refreshing @shatterpath! I love this Snow so much.
Shatterpath: I love Snow, as an anti-hero. She was farmore interesting then I would have believed
Ravenfairy00: was one of the deals cora made to have blue fairy be a royal bit…sorry ignore me
ariestess: This Snow fascinates me in ways I can’t explain, and yet I nearly loathed MM.
Aquila1nz: if only i thought tv would let two women ride off into the sunset together
xraex21: MM is boring and a coward and a hypocrite
ariestess: @xraex21 :: ITA!
Aquila1nz: just saw the end of House, am bitter all over againr emembering Xena vs Hercules
ariestess: And David is no better. He’s WORSE, in fact.
xraex21: Snow is vastly more complex…she just needs better dialoge
Shatterpath: Well, think about it, MM was cut off from teh things we love about Snow
ariestess: @Otakugamer01, you have the next question.
Alert: Otakugamer01 hand was lowered by ariestess
chilly-flame: David is so boring. I really hope Charming works in Storybrooke, because David = yuck.
Alkmaion: @aquila: That´s what ‘2 Broke Girls’ is for *g*
Shatterpath: David had the same problem
Aquila1nz: lol, true
xraex21: ugh david and the two cards scene
Otakugamer01: not really a swan queen question but, anyone else wondering if they’ll have scenes dealing with the fact that Snow/Charming were with other people sexually during their time in SB?
xraex21: *shivers* thank god I’m not straight
Shatterpath: most of their personalities choked off by the curse
chilly-flame: On the show, I doubt it.
Otakugamer01: which is what we’re kinda already talking about…lol
ariestess: Good question! I’m sure a lot of people are going to be having a LOT of issues to deal with it.
xraex21: HEy dax!
Daxilla: Hey X!
chilly-flame: I mean, depending on who Dr. Whale is.
AlexReading: hi dax
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I am very interested in seeing that, though on the show? Only if they’re playing the jealousy card meaning a villian brings it up
damelola: the-charmings/adventurepants floated an interesting idea in her most recent fic – that when the curse breaks their pre-curse life is a stronger memory than SB
damelola: like they have both, but SB is hazy, somehow.
Aquila1nz: who wrote the line about one of the dwarves doing brazilian waxes in storybrook? cos that was funny
xraex21: dude what if Dr. Whale is THE whale from pinocio….awkward
thebronzey: awkward and strange lol
ariestess: Okay, Ravenfairy00, you have the next question.
DanieXJ: *emma with a harpoon* (not that I condone shooting whales)
Aquila1nz: presumably he’d be flopping around on the hospital floor, now?
writetherest: @damelola I think that’s really interesting and also something that could be very true, because Henry did make the comment about them not really remembering their pasts if pressed about them.
Exquisiteliltart: reverse curse- everyone forgets about storybrooke, all Regina’s sacrifice for nothing
xraex21: awww oouch
Ravenfairy00: Just wondering what everyone’s speculation is about who little henry’s birth father is??
Aquila1nz: i think he kinda has to be rumplestiltskin’s garndson
chilly-flame: God. Bae. Ugh. I just hate that. I will probably come around to it, but today? ugh.
xraex21: @danie – just the pervy ones
ariestess: I originally thought it was August. Now I’m leaning toward Baelfire, if he’s still alive.
xraex21: @chilly that’s so obvious i don’t think they will
DanieXJ: Bae, definitely
xraex21: or at least im hoping
chilly-flame: i sure hope not @xrae
xraex21: I’ll be kinda pissed if they do
Aquila1nz: because either his ftaher isn’t from FTL or there’s yet anotehr ale storybrook denison running around out there
damelola: I hope they have something more interesting in mind than Bae or August
damelola: well, we pretty much know it’s not August anyway
Ravenfairy00: Emma seems so depressed and scared about it. like it was a traumatic experience. i was also thinking Bae
xraex21: you’d think august would have remembered that
xraex21: and mentioned it
ariestess: Well, there’s also the theory that Bae isn’t alive anymore. He was separate from teh curse, and how far back in FTL time did he leave compared to the enacting of the curse?
DanieXJ: well, august probably has good wood…. sorry, sorry, sorry…..
xraex21: @arie we don’t know
Aquila1nz: we don’t now, but gold was prepared to believe he was August’s age
BetweenLove_n_Hate: my thoughts exactly ariestess
xraex21: and splinters *backs away*
damelola: time doesn’t have to move at the same speed in both worlds, I guess.
ariestess: Gold is prepared to believe almost anything re: Bae
damelola: I really don’t want it to be Bae, though.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol lola, I play with that concept in my story
ariestess: True… But wasn’t Rumple the Dark One for a LOOOONG time?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: how time moves differently between the worlds.
xraex21: Gold can’t change though…he’s the ultimate coward – creating pawns to hide behind
ariestess: And xraex21, you have the next question.
thebronzey: time lines can always converge
xraex21: Do you see the Evil Queen (FTL) and Regina (StoryBrooke) as being the same person? Or was she just as affected by Gold’s curse as everyone else (minus the memory loss)?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: yes, yes he was. But we haven’t gotten a GOOD set on the timeline in FTL yet
Aquila1nz: someone needs to write Emm/Regina fpreg, and who cares where the Y chromosone came from
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I see them as two different people to be honest
xraex21: @aquila – that’s what magic is for
Ravenfairy00: i love babyfics
DanieXJ: I do see them as the same person
damelola: yup @aquila, that’s definitely out there
writetherest: @damelola DRAGON BABY (I had to. For Kristen)
chilly-flame: i also see them as the same person. i think the Mayor has learned to control her impulses, but the Queen’s in there
Aquila1nz: actually yes i think i read that one
DanieXJ: Hey, if f/f procreation can be done with Sam/Janet, Emma/Regina should be cake
giftofamber: I love Dragon Baby
damelola: @xraex21 – I think they are they same person, yes. Regina just got to take a breath and start over, after a fashion, in SB
ariestess: Oh, yeah, there’s definitely Swan Queen fpreg. I’ll probably go there at some point, myself.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I see the Evil Queen as a PART of Regina now that she’s been in storybrooke for so long. and the longer she stays the smaller that part gets
ariestess: Dragon Baby?
damelola: that’s why the Evil Queen bleeds through so easily when she’s stressed/threatened
chilly-flame: Dragon Baby FTW
damelola: Dragon Baby is me
Ravenfairy00: i agree with btw love and hate
Aquila1nz: yay for sff fandoms, no fluffing about with turkey basters
ariestess: @xraex21 :: I see EQ and Regina as facets of the same fandom.
damelola: I think it’s called One More Baby, at various points. I must finish that.
writetherest: YES YOU MUST
damelola: Although I’ve written turkey baster babyfic too, only short
chilly-flame: I can’t believe I’m admitting this publicly but I am going there too.
Ravenfairy00: dragon baby ftw
xraex21: *sigh* swan queen babies
damelola: YES YOU ARE CHILLY
writetherest: @chilly YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Ravenfairy00: yeah chilly. squeeeeee!!!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: @Chilly, YOU’RE going with an fpreg story!?
AlexReading: waiting for the next update
Thewhitestars: Dragon baby rulez
ariestess: @Lola :: So is Dragon Baby a pseud?
chilly-flame: I had to. Lola’s fault.
DanieXJ: have I gone there? Is it bad that I don’t remember?? I don’t think I have. Which is weird, because I usually do…
ariestess: *is confused*
writetherest: @chilly Come over here, I’m gonna hug your neck. (I kinda suspected)
BetweenLove_n_Hate: like, can I squee and cry at the same time?
shesgottaread: me too!
damelola: and spoiler: it’s already amazing. So chilly is gonna finish it, if she knows what’s good for her
damelola: @AJ – Dragon baby is just kinda how it got to be known, it was written as a ficlet and spiraled out of control
xraex21: I do love them
giftofamber: @ariestess the fic is called ‘One More Baby (AKA The Continuing Adventures of Dragon Baby)’
chilly-flame: It’s so good. You must finish it Lola.
ariestess: I’ll have to look for it.
Ravenfairy00: swan queen babies ftw!
damelola: Amber knows my fic better than I do! this is why I love her!
ariestess: And here’s a question for the panel. Which female character is the easiest to slash or the hardest to slash? And why?
thebronzey: I hate all baby fics in all fandoms… I’m a heartless monster.
damelola: Emma is actually easier to slash than Regina, for me. It’s that linebacker walk.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Hardest: MaryMargaret though I do ship Snow/Regina
ariestess: LMAO! Linebacker walk…
Aquila1nz: i love the way Emma walks
xraex21: OMG "linebacker walk" cannot be unseen
DanieXJ: Yeah, hardest is definitely MM
Aquila1nz: so ungraceful!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: the easiest besides SwanQueen, is Totally Red, lol who is my new favorite character
chilly-flame: Easiest: Regina. I would put Regina with anyone.
Shatterpath: ‘Hey baby, you packin’?’
damelola: MM is hard to slash… and yet easy enough as Snow? Not sure why
damelola: I have some Snow Queen to finish, actually.
LZClotho: Yay! finally made it!
chilly-flame: Next is Red. I quite enjoy the Red Queen I’ve read, even the dark stuff.
LZClotho: my radio guest stood me up
writetherest: I love Red so much
ariestess: And I’m gonna share a comment that Shatterpath made to me IRL re: Emma’s walk/swagger :: "It’s the Sofia walk." As in Sofia from CSI, with her studly swagger.
Aquila1nz: hi LZ!
chilly-flame: Emma works with Regina, but I don’t really see Red Swan. Not sure why.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I want more people to write for RedQueen. I think they fit so well together. even if my OTP is SwanQueen
DanieXJ: wish there was more Red in the actual show
LZClotho: Red/Queen should be very dark. It’s very much like Graham/Regina… because Red is another under the QUeen’s memory curse.
writetherest: now there should be, hopefully!
chilly-flame: I hope @danie that now Megan’s permanent she will be
damelola: I find Red Swan comes out too fluffy when I write it
Otakugamer01: I want Red/ Dragon
LZClotho: There will be much more Red in s2. Meghan made full recurring.
writetherest: @chilly I’m kinda the opposite. I can see Red Swan more than Red Queen. IDK why
damelola: haven’t really tried Red Queen yet, outside of Red Swan Queen
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I like shipping RedQueen in FTL
Otakugamer01: Maleficent and Red together…think about it
xraex21: ohhh red dragon sounds interesting
writetherest: But Red Swan Queen is the best
giftofamber: I’ve seen a lot of Red/Snow
xraex21: red swan queen breaks things
damelola: I am that one person who doesn’t like Maleficent or ship her with anyone
ariestess: I’m coming to the dark side of Red Swan Queen…
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Maleficent and Regina. Though Maleficent and Red together would work too
thebronzey: I only ship Red with me sooo… lol jk
xraex21: it’s so damn hot
chilly-flame: I hope more Red Swan Queen gets written. They are delish.
LZClotho: those threesome fics can be srsly HOT!
damelola: I find Kathryn easy to slash, somehow
writetherest: I LOVE KATHRYN
chilly-flame: omg I always forget her.
xraex21: @dame she’s independent
damelola: KATHRYN IS AMAZING
writetherest: Kathryn/Ruby. I’m into it
damelola: oooh, intriguing!
Thewhitestars: Sorry about all the hopping in and out. My phone’s wifi is acting up
chilly-flame: do it, writetherest.
damelola: I like Kathryn/Regina and mayyyybe Kathryn/Emma as an outside bet
writetherest: It’s sort of making a tiny appearance in this thing I’m trying to write right now
Otakugamer01: my first OTP is Swan Queen, Red Dragon is my second…i’m kinda getting tired of poly-relationship fics…sorry
ariestess: I think I like Kathryn more than Abigail. I hated both at first, but Kathryn has grown on me.
damelola: yes writetherest, make it happen
nallus_: oh yes, Kathryn/Ruby would be a very nice couple
writetherest: @damelola stop encouraging me
chilly-flame: My threesome was a one off. But I did have fun writing it!
thebronzey: I’m pre-shipping Red/Mulan
damelola: I feel like K/R could bond over being dragged into the Charmings/Whites drama all the time
ariestess: Kathryn/Regina is obvious, but fascinating.
xraex21: I think this show might have the most workable pairings
thebronzey: *invents pre-shipping*
damelola: @writetherest you know I will always make you write more things.
damelola: Kathryn/Ruby I meant, sorry for the abbreviation
writetherest: @damelola *Doralee voice* Lola, NOT HELPING!
ariestess: *thinks she may need Lola to encourage her on occasion*
ariestess: And xraex21, you have the next question again.
Alert: xraex21 hand was lowered by ariestess
xraex21: Most hated character on the show? (And why? I want some ranting)
damelola: @AJ, I am like the Pied Piper of OUAT femslash. I make everyone write for me, be it threats or treats
damelola: We should have a proper writers support group!
ariestess: @Lola :: I"m down with that, as long as Regina is involved somehow.
writetherest: BLUE FUCKING FAIRY
damelola: BLUE FUCKING FAIRY
Ravenfairy00: Blue fairy sucks it!!!
chilly-flame: BLUE FUCKING FAIRY ALSO
xraex21: haha the obvious choice
DanieXJ: David. Boring. Annoying. Getting in everyone’s frickin’ way.
damelola: and Rumpel
Ravenfairy00: Rumple close 2nd of course
xraex21: NO ONE likes her
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I don’t like Archie or Rumple
xraex21: it’s cheating
ariestess: @Lola :: I’m down for an OuaT femslash writers suppport group.
DanieXJ: Hey, I sorta like the blue fairy….
writetherest: @ariestess me too
LZClotho: Yes, BF is bad news… Rheul Ghorm Bae called her wasn’t it? Does that translate to Blue Fairy in German or something?
giftofamber: I hate the Blue Fairy
ariestess: Amsuingly neough, I kind of like the Blue Fairy.
thebronzey: Gold/Rumplestiltskin… I want to rip his face off and feed it to a rabid dog
Otakugamer01: if only Mally could shout at the blue fairy, "Fuck you and precious fairy vagina!" True Blood fans will get it
damelola: @AJ – we can have beta support and maybe little challenges and venting posts!
xraex21: OH OH FOLLOW UP QUESTION – HOW WOULD YOU OFF THEM?
LZClotho: but man, she’s a strange duck.
Aquila1nz: i hate that rumple as more sympathetic back story than Regina
xraex21: @aquila I don’t think he does
damelola: @Otaku – I don’t even watch TB, but thanks to Tumblr I get it
writetherest: HE DOESN’T THOUGH
LZClotho: I don’t think his back story is more sympathetic at all.
ariestess: @Lola :: I’m totally down with that. Contact me after con and we’ll set it up.
xraex21: I think it shows a pattern of cowardice
Ravenfairy00: send her someonewhere no amount of clappping can bring her back
xraex21: rumple is the most evil and the most unchaning
writetherest: HE CHOSE TO LET HIS SON GO INTO THE OTHER WORLD, HE CHOSE TO SEND BELLE AWAY. HE CHOSE IT ALL.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: @Otakugamer LMFAO
giftofamber: I don’t think his back story is more sympathetic
damelola: get Tinkerbell on the show to kick some fairy ass
Aquila1nz: yes, but rumple started out trying to save his son and all the children, got sucked into the evil magic
writetherest: @damelola Tinkerbell, LOL
damelola: I don’t understand the fandom perception of Rumple as being ‘wronged’ somehow. Choices, all the way
xraex21: @write *pat pat* we’ve all felt that
displacedwarrior: I HATE that people that find Rumple more sympathetic than Regina it makes no sense to me.
Aquila1nz: Regina is still blaming a child for betraying her, so she became just like her evil mother
ariestess: ITA, Lola, re: Rumple and his choices.
damelola: @writetherest: Cheno-bell
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Tinkerbell, I’ll squee and clap for hours if she gets on the show
DanieXJ: but, rumple will get a good ending ’cause he’s the dude, and Regina’s the ‘evil queen’… bah
damelola: I still hold out faith in these writers
writetherest: @x thanks. It just drives me crazy that everyone is always on poor sad Rumpel’s side when he made all of the choices and Regina had no say
damelola: they could have made Regina way more monstrous.
Aquila1nz: addiction model for evil vs abused childhood model for evil i guess
LZClotho: When they find out Regina’s Rumple’s "payment" from Cora they’d better change their tune. He’s been using her ALL along. Burns me something green.
writetherest: @damelola I already called it, okay?
xraex21: @aquila – the child blaming has to do with world view, she can’t blame herself or her mother, so who does she have left?
DanieXJ: Lola, I don’t trust any TV writer, ever, even the great one’s do really stupid stuff
ariestess: I think Rumple’s more powerful than Regina, but not more sympathetic.
Aquila1nz: Regina’s back story felt lazier and less developed
damelola: a lot of s1 feels like setting up stereotypes to (hopefully) still tear them down
damelola: e.g. the attitudes to adoption
Otakugamer01: I think people are still tricked by the same thing she was, the illusion of choice, where in fact she had none
Aquila1nz: omg the adoption thing, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ariestess: He, Regina, and Emma are all cowards in their own ways. Two of the three turned to dark magic to try to overcome it. What will happen to the third now that Magic is in our world?
damelola: they can’t SERIOUSLY be that backward about ‘real’ parents here in 2012, can they?
LZClotho: yes, even lana has said she hopes they ‘fix’ that impression.
xraex21: @lola omg they have to tear down the adoption set up, it’s hard to watch that ignorant subtext
Thewhitestars: Oh they can
BetweenLove_n_Hate: wait, what impressiona and catch me up on this parent train
Ravenfairy00: maybe they only think that way at first casue remember they were frozen in time for awhile. and thoughts before that came from ftl.
xraex21: @ariestess – Regina has always been ACTIVE though, Emma runs from her problems, and Rumple creates pawns to fight for me
damelola: Yes, Emma runs. Regina blows up worlds when she doesn’t get her way. And Rumple just… let’s go. Not brave on any front, there.
xraex21: and hides
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol I wrote a thesis paper on the views of parenthood in Disney Princess films and their contemperary counterparts in OUAT
ariestess: @xraex21 :: Good point!
Otakugamer01: i have no regrets, i tweeted adam h. and jane e. letting them know as an adopted person i didn’t like the percieved bias on adopted vs. birth parent
xraex21: IMHO – Regina is the most active character, she faces things head on and if she was "good" she would be the hero
damelola: I tweeted them took asking for reassurance that they had a plan… no response
BetweenLove_n_Hate: (nods) I had that in my paper too
BetweenLove_n_Hate: it bothers me a lot
damelola: that’s interesting @xrae
giftofamber: Horowitz/Kitsis don’t respond a whole lot.
xraex21: hero’s are always blindly acting – but because they are good – good things result even if they die
xraex21: but because regina is "evil" only distruction and chaos happen
Shatterpath: Regina is more selfish and desperate then truly evil
xraex21: it’s entirely black and white, priveledge and non priveledge
thebronzey: I was adopted… I was kind of an asshole like Henry. I’m still convinced my mom was an evil queen of some sort hehe
giftofamber: I think Regina is more about changing the rules of FTL
Ravenfairy00: i think every child goes through that evil parent stage.
thebronzey: most definitely
damelola: I read a thing about how villains are actually people who don’t get a fair shot in FTL
xraex21: @shatter – agreed and she is dealing in the ways she was taught to deal
damelola: that resonates
LZClotho: Regina said it herself, "Just not here" (in response to her father saying she could have her happy ending.)
DanieXJ: don’t think it has to just be adopted kids either who go through that stage
damelola: no matter what they do, they don’t get their happy ending – so why be good?
LZClotho: Regina understood on some level that the rules would always be against her in a world of black and white.
LZClotho: very feminist actually
Ravenfairy00: but regina was trying to be better in sb than in ftl
xraex21: @lola I would agree with that…except for rumple…he’s too delibrate and consistant
xraex21: regina would have followed henry anywhere
DanieXJ: @raven, or at least more sneaky in sb
chilly-flame: Did Magic make Rumpel evil? Did it make Regina? If Cora didn’t have control over everyone in her life, she would not have had the power to make Regina evil
Ravenfairy00: but why ask for a child, if only to try and love it and move on from the past
DanieXJ: @raven, that’s true
ariestess: @LZClotho :: Good point. I really hadn’t thought of the feminish POV for Regina there.
chilly-flame: because she would have been able to fight back. (maybe.)
chilly-flame: I really want to know when Regina started practicing magic. Or realized she was able to do so.
damelola: magic seems to be rare, too.
writetherest: @chilly me too
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Rumpel made himself evil. He had choices and he made them. He had the power to do good things but wasn’t strong enough to use it in a ‘good’ way. And Regina didn’t have magic when she started to plan her revenge on Snow
ariestess: @Raven :: Good point there, too.
Aquila1nz: yes, that must be future flashbacks, right?
LZClotho: magic, as the creators of OUAT said, is a currency, something used to pay for something obtained. how and why is the more important question. (just in their most recent interview for TVG)
ariestess: And BetweenLove_n_Hate, you have the next question.
Ravenfairy00: i think her magic is obviously also a little maternally inheirited.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: What do you think is going to happen when the characters realize they might be able to stay in our world or go back to FTL? What will they choose? Do you think the women will WILLINGLY return to a world dominated by men and THEIR choices?
damelola: well Rumple got his by killing its previous owner. Is that a possibility (assuming Cora isn’t QoH)
LZClotho: chilly-flame: I too want to know when Regina really started practicing magic. She "hated when her mother used it" so clearly saw it as currency she herself didn’t want to use for a long time. The shift had to come at some point after she was Queen over the White Kingdom.
chilly-flame: OH! (@lola)
LZClotho: Are you positing that Regina got her magic by killing Cora?
writetherest: @damelola OHHHH MAN
chilly-flame: interesting point LZ.
LZClotho: that’d be a twist.
damelola: and for people like Ruby who don’t need to be a wolf anymore, potentially. Or dwarves/fairies not being slaves, this world has to appeal
xraex21: oh jesus – http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m762wi0Ej61qbrs65o1_250.gif
ariestess: @Lola :: That’s always been my theory on her magic. And that the first heart Regina took was Cora’s.
damelola: I am positing that, yes
damelola: I agree that at some point Regina really didn’t want to use magic, LZ
Ravenfairy00: but did she take cora’s heart in place of her own?
LZClotho: xraex: love that gif!
chilly-flame: I totally never thought that. Never.
xraex21: It’s not mine…but it popped up on my dash
damelola: I wrote Regina killing Cora as her ‘first’ murder for a prompt
giftofamber: I always thought Cora took Regina’s heart.
damelola: though I had her do it by magic, so the theory wasn’t there yet for me
LZClotho: I still don’t think that Cora ever physically took Regina’s heart. It just doesn’t fit for me
ariestess: @LOL :: Oh GUH for htat gif!
xraex21: original post – http://frivolouswhim.tumblr.com/post/27213018667/singlebrooke-dating-service
damelola: I still swear Cora takes it at the end-ish of Stable Boy
ariestess: Or rather xraex21…
writetherest: @damelola Or maybe she drained Cora of her magic and banished her to Wonderland. Because did the Queen of Hearts really have any power that they showed us? She had the guards but…
damelola: and it’s why that box glows in Hat Trick when Regina rescues her dad’s heart
chilly-flame: Jeez, I came so late to the game (almost near the end of the season) that I always believed that Cora was the QoH. It never occurred to me that she would be dead in FTL.
LZClotho: lola: I disagree. I think that was something else.
damelola: @writetherest – that does intrigue me, too. She doesn’t do magic on Jefferson at all.
xraex21: ….I’m hoping the writers are clever enough to trick us all and give us a few good twists regarding Cora
LZClotho: I also think that Cora is the Queen of Hearts of Wonderland.
damelola: @LZ there’s a fairly even divide
ariestess: Personally, I think Regina taking Cora’s heart was her first test of really using the magic/having it passed on. Taking her father’s heart was a choice that backfired IMO.
Ravenfairy00: but cora had to be queen of hearts after regina married leopold
damelola: but Stable Boy definitely ran long (like Skin Deep) so there are some cut scenes and sharp editing to contend with
damelola: plus they booked Barbara for s2 before they knew there was a s2
chilly-flame: deleted scenes on the dvd. please, god.
writetherest: @chilly THIS
Ravenfairy00: oh yes
ariestess: WANT to see those deleted scenes!
chilly-flame: I would bet they knew pretty quickly that there would be a S2.
xraex21: I want some damn bloopers
LZClotho: that just means there is more to tell of the Cora/Regina relationship
damelola: I mean, the ratings suggested it
BetweenLove_n_Hate: totally there on that wish with you Chilly
Aquila1nz: yeah, ratings said season 2
LZClotho: which was a given. We saw only ONE moment in their lives.
damelola: but they announced that she’d be back
ariestess: Oh, I seriously expect the S2 Cora arc to totally kill my head!canon.
ariestess: Taraetoo, you have the enxt question!
damelola: they could have waited until the summer to say ‘guess who’s coming back’
taraetoo: As DanieXJ mentioned the ending earlier…what do you think will happen to Regina by the end of the series? I’ll be heartbroken if they let her die sacrificing herself as some sort of redemption (I hated the Xena finale for that reason)
damelola: I really can’t cope with her dying.
writetherest: Me either
writetherest: cannot handle it
xraex21: traditional redemption arcs do call for her death though
BetweenLove_n_Hate: i think I could cope with it because I’d have FIC to make sure she didn’t stay dead
damelola: I haven’t loved a character as much as Regina since CJ Cregg.
ariestess: Hmm… While I can’t cope with the idea of Regina dying, I can understand the noble sacrifice, particularly if Henry is somehow involved.
DanieXJ: I do think that Regina will perish, perhaps sacrificing herself, maybe not, but, it also depends on how long the series goes
damelola: I hope they shuck off tradition
LZClotho: I don’t think Regina will die. I do think she will have to make a specific kind of choice though.
chilly-flame: I think about this a lot, and decided that it doesn’t matter that much to me. I care deeply for Regina, but she is something that exists outside the show now. It won’t really matter. If they kill her, I would NEVER forgive, but she will live on anyway. No matter what.
thebronzey: Regina lives happily ever after with Emma… duh hehe
ariestess: @Lola :: The last character I loved this much was Elphaba.
Aquila1nz: she just needs to make the sacrifice, it doesn’t nee to be accepted…
damelola: what I’m considering at the moment is Regina loving (and losing) again to let her finally grieve properly.
damelola: @AJ: Ooh, that’s some big company
xraex21: I keep hoping them will too…but they have been following basic mechanics of fairy tales and tradition closely
damelola: @chilly – I suspect after reacting badly I would do the same
writetherest: @damelola THAT FIC
xraex21: I’m hoping she dies (I really think it will happen) then love brings her back
damelola: sorry @writetherest I hate myself for it.
ariestess: @Lola :: I have a thing for the flawed witches…
xraex21: THEN and only then can she have her happy ending
chilly-flame: What do I want? Redemption. Love. Happiness. Forgiveness. And most of all, for Henry to love her properly. Actually, a Kristen story would be perfect. Dead, then life. Yes, exactly, @xrae.
giftofamber: speaking of the basic mechanics of fairy tales, Emma saved Regina twice. That can’t be coincidence.
ariestess: Which means I can add Rachel Corrigan to that list. *facehoof*
Aquila1nz: if they are doing redemption death then we have to hope for sudden cancellation before they can carry it out…
LZClotho: gift: agreed. not coincidence.
damelola: @giftofamber – that’s a great point
xraex21: @gift NO and that’s why as a pairing they are very traditional
damelola: and Emma is everyone’s savior. Not just the good people
xraex21: except for all the boobies involved
Aquila1nz: yes, saving people’s lives matters
DanieXJ: she’s the knight, regina’s the damsel?
ariestess: @Lola :: Oh, that kind of story with loving and losing again would be fascinating. I have a coupple of ideas for something along those lines.
xraex21: but who can say no to more boobies?
writetherest: and there have been parallels between Snow/Charming and Emma/Regina already so…
damelola: @xrae – it’s why I can’t give up this glimmer of SQ being canon – they have really set them up as a romantic archetype
damelola: and forgot to give either woman a love interest at all in s1
Ravenfairy00: omg the boobs.
xraex21: @lola it makes for damn good subtext
xraex21: either way
ariestess: @Lola :: ITA. They’re totally set up that way. And the only "love interest" was "sharing" Graham.
chilly-flame: It truly does.
LZClotho: I think the modern twist is they are BOTH the knight.
DanieXJ: well, lola, they did sorta kill one of the love intrests of emma’s right as emma was kissing him. a good sign? I think so
damelola: I love this subtext so much.
damelola: It’s an equality thing, isnt it @LZ – they can both save AND be saved.
xraex21: @lz ohhhh that’s cool
Aquila1nz: i love how little redshirting there has been
damelola: which again is a great feminist message, if they stick with it
LZClotho: think how it was Regina, not Daniel, who hopped on that horse and tore off to rescue Snow.
damelola: I hope so @Danie!
ariestess: @LZ :: I think you’re right that they’re both savior and saved.
DanieXJ: but can they stick with it?
Otakugamer01: anyone willing to write a fluffy oneshot where Emma sees Regina dressed as the Evil Queen, in SB post curse… "that’s not right, boobs aren’t evil?" cute confused puppy Emma face
xraex21: I just like bringing opposing forces together…it’s a challenge and it doesn’t hurt that SQ is hot as hell
LZClotho: right from the beginning they made Regina a woman of action
xraex21: @otaku GAHAHAHAHHA
ariestess: @Otaku :: Oh, that’d be hilarious!
xraex21: that’s how evil gets me every time…the low cut tops and leather
writetherest: @Otaku I’m pretty sure it’s been done a time or two, I just can’t think of the fics off the top of my head
ariestess: Evil Queen Regina makes me want to design costumes again, but I can’t top what’s already been designed for her.
Otakugamer01: @write they’ve done the leather pants, but not boobs
Ravenfairy00: omg the leather. maura isles would have a fit. lol
damelola: those designs are BEYOND
ariestess: Xraex21, take it away with the next question.
damelola: @raven : heee! Now we just need to make Maura Alice and…
ariestess: @Lola :: IKR?
giftofamber: @lola so that Wonder Queen fic? Soon yes?
damelola: it’s started!
writetherest: @otaku there was one with boobs too. Because one of the lines was just Emma saying "boobs". I’ll check around
xraex21: Regarding SwanQueen – who do you think would break first and make the first move?
LZClotho: I am waiting for the moment when Regina saves someone. IMHO it WILL happen.
Otakugamer01: they’re in FTL i believe
Otakugamer01: i’ve read it
Otakugamer01: Regina had just come back from a meeting with the royal advisors
ariestess: Oh, Emma will make the first move. Regina will still throw disdain at her.
xraex21: omg this is evil – http://-emmaaa.tumblr.com/post/27213166930
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’d like to think Emma would. Unless Regina is otherwise enticed BY Emma to make the first move, thus Emma makes the first move by default by provoking Regina
damelola: I usually see Regina as the aggressor in my head… but I split the initating fairly evenly I think
chilly-flame: Oftentimes, mutual.
thebronzey: I live for Regina’s eventual redemption. If they don’t do it, I’ll lose my mind.
writetherest: @otaku ah, maybe that is it.
chilly-flame: Like, oops, our lips accidentally slammed together.
Aquila1nz: given their history of getting right up in each other’s faces
xraex21: @chilly IT WAS THE BOOBS, that’s always the result of exposed cleavage
chilly-flame: Boobs. Yep.
damelola: Mmm. Boobs.
Daxilla: wow I need to start watching this show lol
ariestess: Oh, I’ve totally written them with Regina WANTING Emma to make the first move. That removes teh obstacle then, and if she knows htat Emma likes her, too, she’ll be a PREDATOR to go after Emma.
chilly-flame: You need to, Dax.
thebronzey: yes you do, Dax… and write fanfic for it
chilly-flame: There are a lot of boobs. Excellent boobs.
Exquisiteliltart: I just one all about Emma’s boobs :The Sheriff’s new bra:
Daxilla: with how many times y’all have said "boobs" in the last 5 minutes it seems like my kinda show lol
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Wait…Dax, you don’t watch it already? (Gasp)
thebronzey: mmm boobs
ariestess: I like writing Regina as wanting Emma to be dominant…
Daxilla: <<sheepish look>> no… I have been trying to avoid new fandoms lol
xraex21: I kno there are entire spams dedicated to the EQ’s boobs
damelola: I agree AJ. A lot of my smut rolls that way
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’m split between the two of them both seeming like tops
giftofamber: Dax: someone did a post comparing Evil Queen vs Succubus boobs.
chilly-flame: I just realized I have written exactly one first kiss in seven stories. Whoops.
Daxilla: but now I am gonna go find some fic…
Aquila1nz: where’s the fun in that?
Daxilla: anyone have recs?
damelola: For Regina giving up control in any way is kind of a big deal, so it makes the stakes deliciously high
DanieXJ: there could be more boobs, but it takes place in Maine, which is way too cold for too long
BetweenLove_n_Hate: In A Land Far Far Away
ariestess: @Lola :: I started a series of stories with Regina’s "nightmares", usually involving Emma making the first move and/or being dominant toward her.
damelola: and they film in Vancouver so they’ve almost killed the cast from exposure already
giftofamber: Dax: These Aren’t the Happy Endings You’re Looking For. Enchanted. The Continuing Adventures of Dragon Baby.
damelola: ooh @AJ – that I would like to read!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: by Dashed, Dax uhm…anything by Chilly_flame really
Shatterpath: The Pacific northwest isn’t THAT bad
Daxilla: got it thanks!
geekgrrllurking: @Dax check out Heartsways on LJ
Ravenfairy00: the cold rocks.
chilly-flame: Lola and writetherest were my gateway drugs, Dax.
damelola: It probably is when you’re used to LA and it’s non-weather
ariestess: @Lola :: I’ll find the links and PM you with them on LJ. I"m blanking on the titles atm.
DanieXJ: I could use some cold up here in NE right now
damelola: although Jen especially is from Chicago, so she should suck it up
thebronzey: I recommend not my fic… it’s weird and confusing
writetherest: @chilly you are ridiculous and I adore you
giftofamber: I also recommend Dreamscape.
damelola: @chilly I was clearly just trying to lure you in
Ravenfairy00: @xraex21 are you trying to kill me again?
writetherest: @chilly also second the Lola rec. And rec the hell outta you and adventurepants too
DanieXJ: mmmm…. mine generally aren’t about boobs and more about angsty stuff…
damelola: Read everything by adventurepants on AO3
damelola: and icicleair
chilly-flame: omg @xrae that GIF
ariestess: I’d rec my fic, but I need to write more. LOL!
damelola: *death by GIF*
xraex21: @raven @chilly I don’t know what you’re talking about *polishes halo*
Aquila1nz: someone just link dax some vids
LZClotho: authors I rec: fictorium, B of Ericaland, Scribes&Scrolls, heartsways and adventurepants
Ravenfairy00: the halo held up by horns routine hmm
xraex21: surprisingly this fandom uses ff.net over lj
LZClotho: standbackufools and killerelephants are great one-shotters
chilly-flame: THE DEBT! I tried to lure the author here but she is hopefully writing instead!
giftofamber: this fandom is heavy into tumblr.
damelola: and of course @writetherest’s fics – The Way Things Were Not
Otakugamer01: no comm on lj, or at least i couldn’t find one that was really active
damelola: and The Second Hand Unwinds, which I *will* make her finish
writetherest: The Debt and it’s sequel are AMAZING
damelola: seconded on the Debt
ariestess: *is ded of teh!gif*
LZClotho: oh my goodness, yes, writetherest’s AU switching Regina and Emma’s roles was brill! That’s "The Way Things Were Not", it’s great.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Daughters Will Love Like You Do, one of MY ALL time Favorites and NEver Stay But Then Again I Might
writetherest: there is an LJ comm but it’s pretty dead
writetherest: Aww, you guys. Thanks. *blushes*
Aquila1nz: yes, loved that AU
chilly-flame: yep. not much love on the old lj.
Aquila1nz: there’s plenty of fic being posted on lj
writetherest: @chilly we should change that! *raises banner*
damelola: I just keep my archive on LJ for completeness. But it’s Tumblr/Ao3/ff.net really
ariestess: I need to start posting links to my OUaT femslash on the OUaT LJ comm. I keep forgetting.
LZClotho: I’m writing now, but am just in the beginnings of things
chilly-flame: i keep it there, but the comm seems very quiet compared to the tumblr stuff.
Aquila1nz: i only see thigs on tumblrr, ao3 and fanfiction.net if soemone links to them
Ravenfairy00: tumblr is the new reality taking over lol
damelola: also, I’m kind of over general comms and the het ship resistance
writetherest: @chilly yeah. I started posting there originally, but wasn’t getting much response. Certainly not like tumblr or ff.net
Aquila1nz: livejournal’s the only one i check carefully
chilly-flame: yes, LZ, i have been watching Your Move. Good stuff.
damelola: this fandom is particularly tetchy when it comes to shipping wars
xraex21: READING FIC ON TUMBLR IS SO DIFFICULT. *pouts* I miss lj and it’s comprehensiveness.
LZClotho: tracking a story on livejournal is hard, unless the author is careful with tagging and consistent, and still it has to be downloaded in backward order.
the_dhamphir: I hate tumblr
ariestess: @xraex21 :: AGREED!
writetherest: @LZ yes you need to update soon!
damelola: I haven’t read much of yours yet LZ, but I started Your Move this morning and it’s coming along great!
LZClotho: labor-intensive. I like AO3 and ff.net for the download ease.
ariestess: I don’t mind tumblr for gifs and piccies, but it sucks for fic.
damelola: Tumblr has it’s faults but it’s totally the home of fandom now, IMHO
LZClotho: I have part 5 ready to go up in the morning on Lana’s birthday.
xraex21: AO3 has tagging issues, ff.net brings out a lot of weirdness, all the sites have issues
writetherest: @LZ excited fists
LZClotho: I also have already written part 6. Not sure if I will post it too, or wait a couple days.
Aquila1nz: yeah well, i still read yahoogroups
LZClotho: How does everyone feel about cliffhangers?
xraex21: @lola I agree…it’s just hard to read a 10k fic on there
the_dhamphir: tumblr sucks for fic
thebronzey: AO3 you need an invite or something… I lack the connections for such things
xraex21: @lz THEY ARE EVIL
ariestess: @LZ :: I also put my stuff on AO3 [and am mostly caught up atm], but I know there are people that don’t like that format either.
DanieXJ: @LZ, writing or reading?
DanieXJ: Love writing, hate reading
damelola: @LZ I love writing them (sadist) but hate reading them (whiny)
chilly-flame: I don’t love a cliffhanger. I am notorious for not loving them.
Shatterpath: any of us would be happy to hand out AO3 invites
LZClotho: reading them. part 5 doesn’t leave things in a, shall we say, comfortable place.
giftofamber: I really don’t like the AO3 format. Still can’t figure out how to comment on fic there.
chilly-flame: I try super hard not to read them but in OUAT fic it is impossible to avoid
ariestess: @bronzey :: Shoot me a PM on LJ and I’ll see what I can do for you re: an AO3 invite.
chilly-flame: because everything gets posted in parts!
xraex21: lj is still the best for commenting IMO
writetherest: @chilly I feel like I owe you a personal apology about that. But I swear I’m never posting a story until it’s finished again.
LZClotho: speaking of A03 and ff.net. How serious are the ff.net folks about the MA rating thing?
xraex21: as long as everything is linked properly it works great
chilly-flame: lol, you are an exception, @writetherest
xraex21: @lz that hot mess has not blown over has it?
thebronzey: ok thanks ariestess
ariestess: I’ve heard they’re pretty strict about it.
chilly-flame: please post unfinished! I’m getting used to it!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: they’ve already taken down people’s works. so very serious
DanieXJ: @LZ I think they’re getting more serious for sure.
ariestess: I don’t play over on FF.net at all, so just hear scuttlebutt.
writetherest: @chilly I will finish it someday. I swear.
LZClotho: I haven’t had any of my fic questioned, but I don’t want to suddenly lose access either.
damelola: I have 2 ao3 invites apparently – so hit me up on LJ or Tumblr if you need one
chilly-flame: me too @ariestess. @writetherest, as long as you keep writing I’m good.
xraex21: how do you say no to this face? http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3eir8fJPo1qcrlhuo1_500.gif
damelola: I have a love/hate relationship with ff.net but everything there is at ao3 so I don’t mind that much
Daxilla: i missed all this. what are the questioning?
writetherest: @chilly I’ll have to start sending you my docs like I do to Lola and Kristen.
chilly-flame: i hate that half the time i try to read AO3 the site is down
ariestess: @BetweenLove_n_Hate, you have the next question.
chilly-flame: OKAY THAT WOULD BE FINE
Alert: BetweenLove_n_Hate hand was lowered by ariestess
Exquisiteliltart: I’ve had a story taken off FF.net, but I still have tons of MA up and it hasn’t been touched yet
ariestess: @chilly :: I know they’re having some issues that they’re working on fixing.
thebronzey: FF.net apparently only gets serious about the MA rating when someone reports/complains about a fic… there are some fandoms getting hit hard because self-appointed MA police (or something lol) are reporting the hell out of things
LZClotho: xraex: I couldn’t say no to that face. surprised me David did.
Daxilla: if you rate it MA then why should it be a problem>
chilly-flame: @Exquisite, was it an OUAT fic?
Ravenfairy00: you don’t say no to that face
damelola: yes @chilly, maybe if we drag you kicking and screaming to googledocs you get all the sneaky previews
DanieXJ: all writers should always have a fic backed up somewhere, just in case, then you can transfer it to another thing like AO3 or whatever
thebronzey: they don’t have an MA rating… that’s the thing… it only goes up to M
BetweenLove_n_Hate: oh crap, now I have to remember what my question was. OH…crossovers. What other fandoms would you like to see crossed over with Once?
Exquisiteliltart: yeah, cause bitch was in the summary- Regina being a dominating bitch actually
xraex21: @bronzey – yeah there is this organized troll group that things it’s moderating "cleaning up" ff.net
Kazamen: Hey all, just wondering if anyone else has problems logging into fanfiction.net? I click on login and the page just keep loading.. Im pretty sad cause I follow a few stories there and now i cannot even log in.. its beenhapping for a long time..
damelola: Rizzoli & Isles!
LZClotho: I keep all my fics on my computer, including all previous drafts.
xraex21: it’s total bs
damelola: The West Wing.
ariestess: @Lola :: Gdocs is wonderful for sharing, isn’t it?
chilly-flame: urgh. google already knows everything about me. hmmm
Daxilla: lol okay naieve here…whats the difference?
Ravenfairy00: Devil Wears Prada
DanieXJ: I love doing Xena with it at the moment
Daxilla: naive even
writetherest: @Lola YES YES YES
LZClotho: I think for part 4 of "Your Move" I had four complete drafts and two more edits.
Aquila1nz: gilmore girls
writetherest: I did a Castle one once which was really fun and kinda goofy.
damelola: Ooh, Las Chicas Gilmore? That could be brilliant, actually
DanieXJ: stana katic and lana parilla…. yum
damelola: I’ve crossed it over with The Good Wife already
damelola: and Devil Wears Prada briefly
chilly-flame: No crossovers for me, alas.
Aquila1nz: any of the paranormal investigatin series would be good
writetherest: And I keep joking that I’m gong to do a Desperate Housewives one at some point
damelola: but DWP needs a longer thing where Miranda is the Snow Queen
ariestess: I don’t really think about OUaT crossovers at all.
Exquisiteliltart: oh my god, Regina meets Bree!
writetherest: @lola YES
DanieXJ: @chilly, others will make up for your lack of crossovers… heh
xraex21: oh i’ve done DH…that was fun while i lasted
chilly-flame: @danie I just can’t do it!
damelola: I’d like a LOST AU/crossover maybe
BetweenLove_n_Hate: @Lola, YES, I would LOVE something like that.
damelola: fairytales on the island
writetherest: @exquisite Bree and Kathrine and Regina in the kitchen. Mmmm
DanieXJ: @chilly, see, I just can’t stop doing crossovers
Aquila1nz: anyone done House?
ariestess: Though Shatterpath and I did bring at least 3 [4?] of the OUaT characters over into LWM, our big multi-series AU.
xraex21: MOST EFFED UP ISLAND EVER
damelola: I’m still mad at House, but maybe some day…
xraex21: I’m just picturing Regina glaring at the polar bear
writetherest: I know House has been
LZClotho: the only crossover I’m working on (I’ve never done one before) is House/Miami Medical. I’m giving Dr Allison Cameron something to *do* by having her come to Miami to work with Dr Eva Zambrano. LOL
Ravenfairy00: yes i’ve seen the house crossovers aquila
damelola: I have a Miami Medical/House crossover to finish actually
writetherest: @LZ YES PLEASE
DanieXJ: @LZ, ooh, nice, might have to read that one
writetherest: @lola *cracks whip*
xraex21: problem, for me at least, with MM and House is that both charcters are too NICE
damelola: ooh excellent LZ. I sent Eva to Chicago in mine for trauma and ER depts to butt heads
ariestess: I totally want to do a Miami Medical/CSI: Miami crossover. I just need some Miami Medical source material to peruse to get ideas.
Otakugamer01: i wanna read that LZ
fallonash: @ I totally just wrote a Calleigh/Eva one!
LZClotho: I’m familiar with the Miami area, and I preferred the hands on Eva showing Allison a thing or two about ‘active’ medicine.
damelola: I would read the hell out of that @AJ
damelola: I miss Calleigh
Exquisiteliltart: I need to finish my Rizzoli and isles/ swan queen crossover
ariestess: @fallonash :: I want that, too, or a Calleigh/Eva/Natalia threesome.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: it’s been lovely folks. hopefully I’ll see some of you in the Glee panel later on today. Bye.
ariestess: @Lola :: See? This is why I need you to crack my whip…
LZClotho: Miami Medical has an episode guide out there, but also all 13 eps are available by torrent (that’s how I got mine)
damelola: it’s been great BetweenLove_n_Hate!
fallonash: @ariestess : I made Natalia Calleigh’s BFF in mine
DanieXJ: see ya btw lovenhate
fallonash: but that would be hot
LZClotho: thank you for hosting this panel. SWAN QUEEN is LOVE!
damelola: @AJ, I am officially taking you on in the writers’ posse.
LZClotho: OUAT is great for the strong women too *g*
ariestess: And we’re down to the last 15 minutes of our panel. Any last minute questions?
Shatterpath: I want a good, clean fight ladies
Ravenfairy00: isn’t someone also doing a ouat/swing town?? or am i reading things wrong again lol
ariestess: @Lola :: I’m down!
chilly-flame: What do our writers here have on the docket? I want to know what you’re working on!
damelola: there’s a one shot where the Deckers live in Storybrooke?
Exquisiteliltart: Helebette did a Ouat/Swingtown
Ravenfairy00: thats who its was. thanks exquisite
damelola: @chilly : Oh dear. I’m scared to start telling.
chilly-flame: Oh you.
Shatterpath: I’m hoping for an idea to strike
LZClotho: yeah, I saw that OUAT/Swingtown crossover.
ariestess: Xraex21, go for it with your question!
xraex21: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3cyzodmuI1r1vyc0o1_1280.png – Anyone else think that rumpel having this "please" power should be more of a problem?
Otakugamer01: once/buffy or angel, emma is a bounty hunter with the slayers group or with Det. Kate Lockley…
ariestess: I am working on a couple of things, including a rewrite of The Stable Boy where Daniel is actually Danielle.
Otakugamer01: once/Supernatural, one of the winchesters is henry’s dad
damelola: ‘please’ is a a massive squicky consent issue for me. I know I’ve talked with @chilly abour it
chilly-flame: lol, that png, but the Please thing is a big deal. Something that has so many issues!
LZClotho: Rumple’s "please" power is an irritant. his way of showing her he has the upper hand.
chilly-flame: fun stuff @ariestess!
LZClotho: it’s a "taunt"
damelola: basically I can only live with it when the ‘please’ makes her do something she wants to do on some level anyway
damelola: and even then
DanieXJ: yeah, I don’t like the please thing ugh
chilly-flame: I worry that it will be more than a taunt
damelola: does please work without the curse?
xraex21: It’s a HUGE consent issue
DanieXJ: and, I’m trying to write myself out of the hole I got myself into with Promise the stars
ariestess: @chilly :: I haven’t started it yet, but it should prove to be interesting, and makes even more sense as to Cora’s reaction to the relationship.
Exquisiteliltart: hopefully with the curse broken in season 2 he’s lost that please power
xraex21: I mean…she has NO power ovver her own life if he uses it aggressively
chilly-flame: I hope the please thing goes away, yes, @exquisite and @xrae
thebronzey: I can’t get past the whole Rumple + Stockholm Syndrome + Belle = True Love
DanieXJ: it would be awesome if he lost the please power
damelola: oh bronzey that’s my biggest bugaboo too.
xraex21: ewww @bronzey
damelola: how that is romance I will *never* know
xraex21: I love that EQ made a joke about it
Exquisiteliltart: ooh the first time he tries please and it doesn’t work! Regina be tricking!
thebronzey: and people ship that too!
ariestess: @bronzey :: ITA! I have issues with that one. They didn’t give it a proper shakedown IMO.
Otakugamer01: that is romance the way people who love 50 shades of shit is romance…these ladies don’t know better
damelola: I don’t ship Gold with anyone, but then he’ll always be Begbie to me.
ariestess: ITA otaku and LOL
thebronzey: lol Begbie… yes
Destinylove1: the weather its crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy
damelola: to repeat @chilly though – what is everyone writing?
damelola: I want things to look forward to
xraex21: we cannont end this pannel on rumpel….someone find some more boob gifs
Otakugamer01: swan queen
xraex21: @Lola YES. we need a comprehensive list from everyone
Ravenfairy00: @xraex ok no rumple or begbie, imagine full monty lol
Exquisiteliltart: I’m writing Swan Queen humor I’m on a kick. Also, lots of Smut
ariestess: So my The Stable Boy rewrite, a "5 steps in the Swan Queen relationship" [hopefully finished and posted this weekend], and a couple of other currently nebulous Regina or SwanQueen stories.
xraex21: so we can make sure you’re writing
ariestess: And I’m hoping to do Swan Queen for my kink_bingo card this year.
giftofamber: finishing the fluff fic prompt for SQ and writing some Miami Medical smut
xraex21: You guys might also want to say whre you post your stuff
DanieXJ: ch. 8 promise the stars, other than that… I’m stumped for ideas… (Well, in the OUaT genre at least… )
xraex21: so we can look for it better
chilly-flame: as discussed, the pregnancy thing (ugh), and hopefully some smut this weekend.
writetherest: I’m currently working on a fic that i hope to post today as well as a fic called The Worlds You Never See
damelola: I will ‘fess up to mine: Asylum (AU) Regina as patient, Emma as psychiatrist. 2) A really, horribly sad one that I can’t talk about yet. 3) Swan Queen goes Baby Mama.
chilly-flame: TODAY, YES
writetherest: and also trying to get back to The Second Hand Unwinds
Otakugamer01: anyone want swan queen prompts i have some in my tumblr…not sure you might have to dig for them i tend to reblog ALOT more than i thought i would
Exquisiteliltart: yes, I want my smut, @ chillyflame
damelola: and I do want to tie up Dragon Baby now I know how it ‘ends’.
ariestess: All of my stuff is posted on my LJ, my DW, and AO3 under the same name of ariestess
chilly-flame: Tumblr and LJ for me.
writetherest: and then I’ve got like, a million other ideas and half formed stuff started too
ariestess: @Lola :: I’m down for all 3…
DanieXJ: my stuff is all on ff.net (and eventually hopefully on Ao3)
writetherest: Tumblr and FF and LJ when I remember for me
damelola: fictorium everywhere for me – LJ, Tumblr, AO3, ff.net
chilly-flame: ugh @lola #2. sniff.
ariestess: @Otaku :: I"ll ALWAYS take prompts.
damelola: @chilly: I hate myself. Kristen might actually kill me when she finds out about it
xraex21: Thanks for being such a great panel guys! and for answering my 11 million questions.
writetherest: @lola #2 NOOOO. but YESSSSS
chilly-flame: I might too.
damelola: uh oh
chilly-flame: you’ll be dead twice.
chilly-flame: like emma.
Otakugamer01: http://gamergirloracle.tumblr.com/ i hope that works
writetherest: and then I’ll come in for the third kill
giftofamber: thank you for hosting the panel!
damelola: eh, she bounced right back. As long as I come back with her hair
ariestess: And Tareaeto gets the last question.
damelola: this has been great, thank you @AJ for modding so well!
taraetoo: Not a question, I just want to throw in a heartfelt "Thank you for all your work!" to the writers in this room. Your fanfic really creates happiness (…at my end of the PC).
DanieXJ: thanks for hosting the panel AJ!!
chilly-flame: thanks for the great chat people!
damelola: ahhh, thank you @taraetoo!
chilly-flame: and great mods. fun times.
ariestess: Thank you to all of the panelists and attendees for making this such a great panel!
DanieXJ: And Taraetoo, and all the other readers, we would be nothing without y’all
damelola: Thank you to everyone for the reading and commenting too. It means the world!
writetherest: yeah, thanks everyone.