ariestess: Tools of the Trade… What do you use for your femslash creating and finding?
quietheartedfsc: a bit more about all the new ways to tell stories, aj
ariestess: My bad!
quietheartedfsc: it’s a confusing title…lol
ariestess: I think I’m stuck on a similar panel from cons past.
quietheartedfsc: but aj is also right
quietheartedfsc: we’re going to talk about all the new ways to create femslash
quietheartedfsc: which should help you in finding it as well
ariestess: yay! Femslash creation is always good.
quietheartedfsc: more than ever there are an amazing number of different ways to tell a story
Alkmaion: Are there other ways than female + female = femslash? *smile*
quietheartedfsc: in it’s most basic form, no…lol
quietheartedfsc: but delivering it once you’ve got that idea is a whole new world
quietheartedfsc: there is more software out there for doing all kinds of creating than ever
ariestess: Podfic, graphic novel, comic, web series, videos, fic…
quietheartedfsc: and vast amounts of it are open source
quietheartedfsc: which means free
quietheartedfsc: with programs like GIMP you can now do what Photoshop used to cost you hundreds to do
ariestess: If you can figure out GIMP.
Alkmaion: I´m game, -face and all *g*
quietheartedfsc: GIMP is actually easy to use. it’s more much intuitively user friendly than photoshop
docwho2100: There are a lot of good tutorials (written and video) out there for GIMP
ariestess: I tried it, but couldn’t get it. And I use PSP8
quietheartedfsc: and there’s a lot of tutorials out here as well
quietheartedfsc: just takes a bit of patience
quietheartedfsc: one of the things we did in preparation for the Con and the SSW which we’ll talk more about tomorrow
quietheartedfsc: is too research all the open source software out there
quietheartedfsc: to deliver stories by
grumpybear1031: I can’t seem to use it either. I tried after the last Con. I’m stuck with overpriced PS I think
quietheartedfsc: we’ve become quite familiar with a good number of them
ariestess: I think I just need to find better tutorials or something.
quietheartedfsc: I started on GIMP, self taught. I didn’t get to PS until I took classes.
grumpybear1031: I use the whole creative suite at work daily so it’s just ingrained I guess.
quietheartedfsc: Now I use mostly CS5, moving to CS6 in the fall
quietheartedfsc: Right now, I’m up to my eyebrows in WordPress.
ariestess: Which I think I want to learn.
quietheartedfsc: trust me, you do, aj
quietheartedfsc: it’s amazingly easy once you get the basics down
grumpybear1031: WordPress is pretty easy to deal with compared to some others I’ve used
ariestess: Well, the little bit I’ve played with the posts over on the IDF site make me curious.
quietheartedfsc: There’s a tutorial called WordPress Essentials on Lynda.com that will have you making basic sites in 6 hours
quietheartedfsc: literally takes you from loading it on the host to completing a site.
quietheartedfsc: and since Lynda.com offers a 1 month freebie to start, you’re set
ariestess: Maybe I can do an overhaul on our 3 sites…
quietheartedfsc: Morten Rand-Hendrickson does the tutorial
grumpybear1031: I’m one of those peoples that avoids tuts. I tend to just jump in and experiment
ariestess: And eventually move the pro blog from blogger…
quietheartedfsc: he also has 3 others that will teach you to make your own child themes in no time
ariestess: I’m 50-50 on tutes vs. getting dirty and experimenting.
quietheartedfsc: I’m the same
grumpybear1031: if i really can’t figure something out then I’ll look for a tut
quietheartedfsc: but these are so step by step and easy to understand it took no time at all
quietheartedfsc: and WP is on most hosts now
quietheartedfsc: One of hte other things we looked at was making audio fics
quietheartedfsc: for that we came up with Audacity.
michelle_2011: I like using Audacity
quietheartedfsc: All the audio fic we did this year and last was done on it.
quietheartedfsc: You pretty much just need a mic and headphones.
quietheartedfsc: the trick with audio is to keep from popping
ariestess: I hate teh sound of my voice, so always shy away from audiofics.
ariestess: Though my roommate wants me to do recipe porn.
docwho2100: : )
the_dhamphir: speaking of audio fic, where can we find it?
quietheartedfsc: I’m not even gonna ask
quietheartedfsc: we had some issues with audio fic this year….lost most of our recorders
quietheartedfsc: I think 1 fic actually made it in.
quietheartedfsc: I couldn’t do mine for obvious reasons
quietheartedfsc: but we have a bit of a surprise coming later in the year to take care of that
quietheartedfsc: so watch for update
ariestess: @QH :: All I’m going to say is reading recipes in various accents to sound like porn. Including my "Minnesconsin" accent.
quietheartedfsc: I think the best discovery I made in my researching ways was the various open source screen recorders
quietheartedfsc: by that I mean software that records your computer screen and audio together
quietheartedfsc: allowing you to make your own tutorials
quietheartedfsc: CamStudio is the best one we found for that
ariestess: That sounds interesting…
quietheartedfsc: Doc and aj, if you want to tell us a bit about the wiki software you’re using
ariestess: wiki software. Right.
docwho2100: sure – a lot of wiki creation is hosted on other sites, but you can also host your own wikis. We’ve been using a software called MediaWiki
docwho2100: It is a similar format to what wikipedia uses
quietheartedfsc: I’ve got the feeling we’re talking to ourselves over here…lol
docwho2100: you need to know a bit of html type coding to make a wiki page and knowing a little php to create the back structure is needed
ariestess: It’s actually a fun format to work with. I’d never done anything with wikis before, other than read them, but I’m learning a lot.
quietheartedfsc: but actually, I’d like to know more about the wiki…I’ve yet to have the chance to ask you two about it
docwho2100: if you don’t want to code your own stuff, I recommend pbworks (use to be pbwiki)
docwho2100: we added to mediawiki to make it more powerful
docwho2100: we are using the idea of semantic searching
docwho2100: it is an add on for mediawiki
ariestess: It certainly makes it interesting, to say the least.
docwho2100: the semantic extension allows you to add more connections to each wiki entry so you can search for linked concepts
ariestess: Speaking of teh wiki, I have work to finish tomorrow before the panel.
quietheartedfsc: doc, you’re going to have to send me some serious tutorial links for that.
ariestess: And I need them, too. LOL!
docwho2100: such as creating a semantic property that links who is in a relationship with whom
quietheartedfsc: aj… wanna peek?
ariestess: @qh :: sure!
docwho2100: I think I need to use CamStudio to make tutorials LOL
ariestess: Yes, please!
Alert: Whisper sent.
quietheartedfsc: yes, please, ditto
quietheartedfsc: you realize that only the 3 of us could get so psyched about talking code
docwho2100: Well, you could say writing code is like writing a story
docwho2100: well, kinda
michelle_2011: I could stand to hear a little more about coding
docwho2100: : )
ariestess: *squees* Okay, that looks all kinds of sexy, QH!
Alkmaion: Well, i´m listening, but I am in over my my head *g*
ariestess: I love coding!
quietheartedfsc: still needs some work
the_dhamphir: what are you flashing over here qh? lol
quietheartedfsc: the site
docwho2100: Her sexy code
quietheartedfsc: pretty code is so squee worthy
ariestess: That it is!
docwho2100: But with wikis – a lot of people gravitate towards blogs or platforms like WordPress for stories – wikis are awesome for cataloguing and keeping track of information
quietheartedfsc: I know. I’m gonna be linking over a great deal
docwho2100: although with all of these new ways to share story information, you do have to watch for hackers, spammers, etc.
quietheartedfsc: two of the quickest ways to avoid some of the hacking
quietheartedfsc: is to 1. put your content in a meaningless named file
quietheartedfsc: and 2. never, never, never have an account named admin
ariestess: Accounts named admin are so highlighted to be hit by spammers.
quietheartedfsc: it’s an open invitiation to hacking
ariestess: spammers/hackers, yes.
quietheartedfsc: I found out that you can build wordpress sites in dreamweaver…lol
docwho2100: I use dreamweaver to edit the wiki php files often
quietheartedfsc: yes, it does PHP files
Alkmaion: So, Cordy is an onion?(I got layers) *g*
ariestess: @alk :: Wrong window.
Alkmaion: sorry wrong room
docwho2100: : )
Alkmaion: I´ll never hear the end of it, will I? *g*
quietheartedfsc: prob not
ariestess: You get used to it.
quietheartedfsc: bleeding over into the next panel a bit
quietheartedfsc: it’s not horrendously difficult to prep ebooks for Kindle
ariestess: I’m both surprised and not surprised by that, QH.
quietheartedfsc: which seems like a change of subject but isn’t…lol
docwho2100: Regarding code, if really starting out, CodeAcademy has some great intro HTML exercises
ariestess: CodeAcademy? Hmm… Will have to check that out.
docwho2100: and actually what is a good way to create an ebook? or is that a different panel?
docwho2100: : )
quietheartedfsc: calibre is still the easiest, I think
quietheartedfsc: it does a good bit of the work for you
quietheartedfsc: and will put the cover on as well, once you supply the art
ariestess: OH neat!
quietheartedfsc: then you can sell even short fic through Amazon for Kindle
ariestess: Oh, that would be fun, and a little extra money on the side.
quietheartedfsc: Spectrum Diva, among others, is selling their short erotica through there
quietheartedfsc: and since there’s a kindle reader for the pc……
quietheartedfsc: they sell a lot of the short fic for 99 cents
quietheartedfsc: they go up in $1 increments from there depending on length
quietheartedfsc: Kim Pritekel who is probably the first self-marketer…sells her novellas and short fic from her website as pdfs payable through paypal
quietheartedfsc: you make the payment with fic code and name in the comment line and she emails you the pdf
ariestess: That’s pretty damned kewl.
quietheartedfsc: she lost internet access today or would have been with us …she hopes to make tomorrows panels
ariestess: Am I double booked during her panel tomorrow?
ariestess: *can’t even remember her own schedule sometimes*
quietheartedfsc: I think she’s going to be on the ebook panel
quietheartedfsc: so no, aj, you aren’t
quietheartedfsc: you still have to find yourself an editor/beta and be very careful about making clean copy, but you really can do it yourself now
ariestess: *nods* See, and I really want to cut my teeth on freelance editing [and writing], so that sort of this is perfect.
quietheartedfsc: tie it in with the social media stuff we talked about earlier today to extend your marketing reach and you’re in business, aj
docwho2100: Everyone can be a mini publishing house, sorta
quietheartedfsc: yep, like us…lol
ariestess: *nods* I just get hives at most of teh social media stuff.
quietheartedfsc: you have to use it judiciously
docwho2100: And know that just like tools
docwho2100: use different social media outlets for different functions
quietheartedfsc: It’s a process
ariestess: And it’s time to go toward the Self-Publishing panel, too…
quietheartedfsc: One I’ve been following carefully for 3 years
docwho2100: must remember to ask you more later about your 3 year jhourney
quietheartedfsc: you’re part of it, Doc…lol
docwho2100: What opportunities/possibilities are out there, especially with a femslash slant?
quietheartedfsc: rhetorical? or what can I foresee?
docwho2100: Actual and foresee
docwho2100: and also in general, meaning not just for you, but anyone else wanting to jump into opportunities
quietheartedfsc: I don’t think there’s a limit to the opportunites/possibilities. I fyou’re willing to work for it
quietheartedfsc: as an example….from the ssw I can foresee ebook novels,
quietheartedfsc: graphic novels
quietheartedfsc: to animated web series
quietheartedfsc: compilations of short fic
quietheartedfsc: maybe even a live web series
quietheartedfsc: if the base is nurtured so the growth is sustained
ariestess: That’s a lot of options.
quietheartedfsc: yes, it is….and a lot of opporunties for people to take part
quietheartedfsc: you’re only limited by your imagination and determination to succeed…even at my age
ariestess: That’s true.
the_dhamphir: <– just qh’s assistant. *G*
quietheartedfsc: the secret is to always be moving forward, even when it seems to others that you’re not
mandygirl78: what about a comic version?
quietheartedfsc: think of how much we’ve grown and accomplished just since the first con
quietheartedfsc: look at the con itself…what it’s grown to in 2 years
ariestess: True enough…
ariestess: And we got the writers group and the SSW out of it.
ariestess: And now I may be getting an OUaT-based writers group out of it, too.
quietheartedfsc: every year con spawns another child
ariestess: I was joking with Doggie about wondering what would grow out of this year’s con.
michelle_2011: what is next?
quietheartedfsc: and each time all it took was one person opening their mouths
ariestess: Or, actually I put it more like "What will I volunteer myself for this time?"
quietheartedfsc: dunno, michelle….what do you want to be next is the question….it’s what you make it
michelle_2011: oh I may think of a few things
quietheartedfsc: aj, I’m all volunteered out….ralst and Doc got me for years to come I think…lol
docwho2100: : p
ariestess: @QH :: OH, I’ll keep volunteering. It’s the nature of the beast with me.
michelle_2011: me three
quietheartedfsc: ah, but those two just keep expanding on the original volunteer moment
ariestess: And that’s even with ralst and Doc having me for a while to come.
the_dhamphir: @qh, you say that now… but you’ll end up volunteering for something else… lol
ariestess: @D :: You know her too well..
quietheartedfsc: umm, no…there’s no more room at the Inn…lol
the_dhamphir: @aj, I’m gonna marry her anyway. LOL
quietheartedfsc: between the 2 of them, I’m gonna need a dedicated server as it is
michelle_2011: self publishing?
quietheartedfsc: already in the works, michelle
michelle_2011: ah . . .
docwho2100: actually I see that in the next stage of development, more and more people will have their own servers
ariestess: @D :: LOL!~
quietheartedfsc: we might as well split one with ralst and be done with it, doc
michelle_2011: maybe a server in the cloud
docwho2100: people moved from hosted boards to their own, then away from hosted services like blogs and WP and now they are finding they need their own server
ariestess: And me!
quietheartedfsc: yes, aj…you too
docwho2100: a femslash cloud : )
ariestess: I like that!
the_dhamphir: @aj. well she asked. so i look at it as her volunteering. and she follows thru when she volunteers.
michelle_2011: see . . .
ariestess: @d :: Too true!
quietheartedfsc: not always sure how, but my word is my bond…how I was raised
Ceridwyn2: I’m back. What’s the discussion?
quietheartedfsc: anything, everything
quietheartedfsc: dream wild, Ceri…what’s your ultimate goal
quietheartedfsc: break it down into small pieces and make it happen
Ceridwyn2: Travel photo blogger
quietheartedfsc: so do it
Ceridwyn2: I love to travel, I love to take photos (particularly landscape) and I love to write. Put all three together
Ceridwyn2: Headed to NYC in 12 days
quietheartedfsc: so make a blog and start
quietheartedfsc: find a hook
Ceridwyn2: I have one. http://jlstapletonphotography.ca/blog
docwho2100: Did you know there are now ways to let people buy your instagram photos
Ceridwyn2: I use any extra money I save with nursing in order to fund my trips
ariestess: I need to figure out other things to write about on my pro blog, not just the pagan stuff, which has been a "fits and starts" kind of start [and needs to be updated]
Ceridwyn2: My other blog http://celtic-dragon.ca/blog has interviews and reviews
Ceridwyn2: I had one interview with Kyler England last fall, and one with Shamim Sarif & Hanan Kattan last fall
Ceridwyn2: I have an interview coming up with The Rescues