quietheartedfsc: all voyager panelists please change your font to red
Gin Akasarahsmom: I haven’t written much in Voyager… but here I am
lisaofnine: and here I was switching to lime
DiNovia: ma’am, yes ma’am
thebronzey: DiNovia! <3
raiderl_1: wow, DiNovia’s in the house?!
lisaofnine: how is everyone? how many time zones are present?
the_dhamphir: hey DiNovia!
beachbum3668: Now it’s MY turn to squee!
thebronzey: *tackles Di*
Ravenfairy00: Squee for Di
Kazamen: Eastern here!
raiderl_1: i second that squee!!!
charlistorm: hello – London GMT in the house!!!
lisaofnine: western here
Gin Akasarahsmom: Central
lisaofnine: awesome we can take over most of the world!
DiNovia: Raider, did you think I would abandon my lovelies on IDF? Even though I’m still writing my round robin piece still.
wolvie_dk: Central European Time here – it just turned midnight
lisaofnine: oui! london
raiderl_1: of course not!
lisaofnine: wolve: thanks for staying up late
Kazamen: We are waiting eagerly for said piece DiNovia!!
wolvie_dk: hey it’s saturday night. what else was I gonna do?
lisaofnine: she was working on it until late last night. i was whispering suggestions and generally being a pest
quietheartedfsc: pesting is good
lisaofnine: wolvie: well, after midnight, not much
DiNovia: Well, I’m 2/3 done now. Just a little bit more and maybe I can pull off something resembling a cohesive resolution. LOL
quietheartedfsc: so let’s start with the panelists introducing themselves, like they need to..lol
lisaofnine: quiet: "pssst… maybe 7 should say…." and show more cleavage.. errr. write more cleavage
Gin Akasarahsmom: Hi… I’m Gin… I was told to be here… so here I am. LOL… I don’t write Voyager, but I do adore the J/7 pairing
DiNovia: DiNovia: Co-owner of VJB. Author of Queen of Hearts amongst others. General femslashy geek. Fiancee of Lisaofnine.
lisaofnine: oh.. yeah… i am dinovia’s fiance, lisa
quietheartedfsc: Gin is helping mod this panel
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
thebronzey: finish that Otalia fic, Di *hides* jkjk
beachbum3668: I’m BeachBum and Ibegan writing fanfiction in J/7
lisaofnine: hee we spelled it different and yet typed in tandum
Gin Akasarahsmom: I have written one tiny tiny Voyager fic…
quietheartedfsc: same for me…one teeny tiny one
thebronzey: I have read ALL the Voyager fic and written none! *flexes*
lisaofnine: oh and wrote some B7, She who hesitates."
Gin Akasarahsmom: You’re was Big QH!!
Kazamen: likewise, one little chapter for vjb
beachbum3668: I’ve written a few voyager fics
lisaofnine: and I am SUPPOSED to finish seven wonders
Kazamen: Yea, SWH is probably one of my fav stories so far
Gin Akasarahsmom: She Who Hesitates is my MOST favorite T/7 fic… because I can’t stand that pairing… except in that story.
quietheartedfsc: oh, yeah…that crossover thingy, gin means. *G*
raiderl_1: Loved She who Hesitates! one of alltime faves!
lisaofnine: gin, thanks!
quietheartedfsc: I agree with gin, lisa…still read it frequently
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol.. totally welcome. I re-read it fairly regularly
lisaofnine: i have been rereading seven wonders in the hopes of completing it.
DiNovia: Me too. I love SWH. It was VJB’s first fic after all.
lisaofnine: i have time now that I just graduated nursing school and passed my boards this Wednesday… I am NOW an RN
wolvie_dk: SWH was what got me hooked on B/7
Gin Akasarahsmom: Yay! congratulations
raiderl_1: congrats lisa!
lisaofnine: thanks. now i need one of those elusive jobs. they are rarer than helmrats spine
quietheartedfsc: So now you can support Di in the style to which she wishes to become accomstomed? *G*
foodie14: total nerds
springloadedbunny: congratulations. So how does it feel knowing that your fics are on peoples hard drives and in trapper keepers and in e-readers everywhere? *grins*
the_dhamphir: congrats lisa
lisaofnine: total nerd. i am guilty
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… trapper keepers
Ravenfairy00: trapper keepers? really
thebronzey: I’d tell y’all my fav Voyager fic, but all I can remember is "that one with the gloves and the tree"
lisaofnine: spring, well odd. I just worte cuz i love tha pairing.
springloadedbunny: not that I would admit to having one hehehe
DiNovia: Hey, I signed someone’s trapper keeper in 1999 for a Xena fic once. I know this to be true.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL
Ravenfairy00: not knocking it. just didn’t know they were still made.
LZClotho: I did too, Di. Someone had printed out my Xena fics and asked me to sign the front pages.
quietheartedfsc: they’re not…we keep them faithfully cared for
DiNovia: LOL Raven, they are also rare now.
DiNovia: LZ, must have been the same person. We met at a convention somewhere. LOL
Ravenfairy00: that’s cool. i think i have my old one in storage somewhere
lisaofnine: LZ, same for some of my buffy fics, sent me the titlte page to sign. seems so surreal
thebronzey: I had Xena fic printed out… totally abused that printer in the college computer lab
Gin Akasarahsmom: I printed my Xena stories out once… it took a ream of paper and two printer ribbons..
raiderl_1: I printed out the entire Just Between series at one point!
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
beachbum3668: I’m totally impressed
DiNovia: LOL, Bronzey. Unfortunately, my college days were before Internet. I was writing bad Star Wars fanfic back then
lisaofnine: bronzey: we habe ALL abused the school printers. i would make a penn st ref but… too soon
wolvie_dk: me too. still have about 40.000 A4 pages lying around
beachbum3668: The first thing I loaded on my Kindle was Just Between
lisaofnine: god. i just found my first ever fan fic. a DS9 in script form… done on a typewritter
Daxilla: Just Between was inspirational.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I saved all the Just Betweens on my hard drive so that I could read them at my Mothers… she doesn’t have internet access
quietheartedfsc: same here, beach
evilbunyovrlord: my trappers with stories fell apart I got some drings with appropriate Voyager pics sealed into the fronts hehe
LZClotho: lisa: I have a Next Gen script I wrote in my footlocker
lisaofnine: raider… how many trees did that kill. O_o
raiderl_1: hmmmm. lost count
lisaofnine: LZ nerds one and all.
DiNovia: Wanna know what my first fanfic was? Written at the tender age of 10, a Buck Rogers episode extension, written in pencil on my handwriting tablet from school.
thebronzey: I only printed out porn fic because I needed that… later
LZClotho: Di, we must have had the same childhood. I was writing Wilma Deering stories at 12.
raiderl_1: Ten?! impressive!
DiNovia: LZ, if only I had known you then. My family thought I was nuts!
beachbum3668: I STILL make all my notes in those $.99 essay books with the black and white speckled covers.
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. yeah… but…. c’mon.. Wilma Deering…
lisaofnine: oh, i dont count my grade school scribbles. if i did, well, i "wrote" wilma deering /laurie partrige cross voers
Ravenfairy00: i’m not going to ask
LZClotho: we won’t discuss my parents opinion of my writing back then. now 30 years later they get me. back then, writing was a waste of time.
lisaofnine: no singing was involved
quietheartedfsc: *looking at the stack of comp books sitting beside me and slidign down in chair*
raiderl_1: LOL!!! wilma was hot!
evilbunyovrlord: I thought Ardala had real potential if she could get over her draped over all the furniture thing
lisaofnine: totally hot
LZClotho: totally Erin Gray all the way for me.
thebronzey: my tiny brain hadn’t invented the concept of fanfic until I saw some Xena fic lol
lisaofnine: oh crap.. i also wrote wilma/ardala kissy fic
LZClotho: I wasn’t sharing with anyone back then, just writing to/for myself.
raiderl_1: Fanfic has made most of what’s on tv bearable!
lisaofnine: me too, then I tore them imnto tiny shreds
LZClotho: but back to Voyager…
Kazamen: One of the first fanfic stories i read was I Am Borg
evilbunyovrlord: amen raider
lisaofnine: erin grey… sse i knew then i would marry a woman named erin
beachbum3668: I had never written a bloody thing except my Masters thesis until I wrote my first J/7 fic
foodie14: My bff met Erin at Comic Con last year…score me an autographed pic (white tank top and jeans shorts…no complaints)
lisaofnine: lz: sorry. i have been thinking of a B7 alt fic with them as arizona/callie torres from greys anantomy
Gin Akasarahsmom: nice… we have met her a few times… she’s very nice
Ravenfairy00: i got great pics of her this year at our comicon.
Stacicle: Late, sorry, what’s being discussed?
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol.. we’re off topic at the moment.. but it’s supposed to be Voyager
lisaofnine: stacie.. you being late
Jaely: not sure if it’s voyager or comic con at the moment… *grins*
Stacicle: heh, lisa
Ravenfairy00: @beachbum what made you write your first j/7 story?
Stacicle: Voyager, Comic Con, all good
lisaofnine: so, once upon a time… there were two ladies in the dela quadrant…
quietheartedfsc: raven had a question for beach
lisaofnine: and an evil short witch trying to seduce one them… wait…
Ravenfairy00: sorry i didn’t raise my hand. bad raven.
Stacicle: once upon a time
lisaofnine: yes! someone ask questions
quietheartedfsc: it’s ok, raven. I’m more trying to make sure Beach saw it
Ravenfairy00: yeah gin won’t send me to my corner.
Gin Akasarahsmom: my fingers are poised over the keys… just waiting to use my POWER!
quietheartedfsc: *pounding on the screen* Hey BB you in there?
evilbunyovrlord: Okay. If there was one thing beside the obvious that you could have changed in the tv series whaqt would it have been
beachbum3668: I was listening to some of the music from Moulin Rouge…Come What May to be precise…and a picture of Seven of Nine demanding to know what Capt Janeway’s HEART was telling her instead of what her brain was telling her. Absolutely crystal clear in my head.
DiNovia: LOL Gin.
beachbum3668: So I sat down and wrote What The Heart Knows
quietheartedfsc: kaz, go ahead
beachbum3668: quick question for the mods….how far are we allowed to Chakotay-bash?
Kazamen: So, my question goes to Lisa and Erin… What got you into writting T/7 stuff?
lisaofnine: beach bum, just enough to kill him, twice
Gin Akasarahsmom: do we have to talk about .. him?
quietheartedfsc: ya mean, plank? *snicker*
beachbum3668: Just because he (inadvertently) was one of the reasons I started writing
lisaofnine: yes, beginings.. that made me switch to the dark side
DiNovia: Well, Lisa and I met in HerCaptain years ago and were writing J/7. Then Lisa wrote Beginnings which had a moment of subtext between B’Elanna and Seven and it was like a phaser to the head. Suddenly we both went hey, what if…? VJB was born not much later, with the first six chapters of SWH.
Kazamen: Ah very nice thank you
quietheartedfsc: staci, go ahead
lisaofnine: then i saw an interview with kate mulgrew… and when asked whoi she should be paired with on the show… "Anyone but 7." so…
DiNovia: You’re welcome!
Stacicle: beach, where can I find What the Heart Knows?
beachbum3668: On my website: http://beachbum3668.tripod.com
lisaofnine: pssst. stacis google :what the hear know janeway seven"
beachbum3668: No, thank you.
beachbum3668: FYI …some real nasty-looking clouds starting to arrive here. If I disappear I’ll try to come back in again.
quietheartedfsc: k BB
Ravenfairy00: whoever is having a storm, thanks alot for sending it here. lol
Ravenfairy00: had to go bring in the animals.
quietheartedfsc: BB, working on anything new or finishing anything current? *G*
beachbum3668: I’ve got a J7 fic in the works called Time Will Tell. It’s my re-write of Endgame.
Stacicle: Same here, thanks all, but it’s thundering out, so I better preserve my computer. First I’ll download beachbum’s story, though. (big grin)
beachbum3668: and, of course, I’m still working on Decisions and Destiny
quietheartedfsc: come back when you can, staci
lisaofnine: it amazes me that voyager fic is so long lived after the series
Ravenfairy00: yes decisions and destiny!!!!
lisaofnine: i personally think it is due to seven of nine but i am bias
quietheartedfsc: I agreee, lisa
beachbum3668: the chemistry between the two of them was electric.
Kazamen: I think its because the characters are so well liked (for the most part)
lisaofnine: BB ever consider B7? come on.. try the dark side.
quietheartedfsc: been reading D and D in my 2 seconds of down time this week
beachbum3668: Granted, it was based on mutual hatred, but it was obvious there was SOMETHING going on
Gin Akasarahsmom: the dynamic is universal too… the older/younger… teacher/student… thing
thebronzey: 7 of 9 is one of the most fascinating characters in the history of television
Gin Akasarahsmom: for the J/7 fans
Ravenfairy00: exactly purr
evilbunyovrlord: I think overall the characters (Save the mighty oak) had more and better flaws and are therefore more fun to play with hehe.
beachbum3668: LOL…you know, I’ve tried B7. I simply cannot get my head to accept it
lisaofnine: i agree, plus.. well. jeri ryan+catsuit? helllllo
Kazamen: I have one major problem with the series though..
Gin Akasarahsmom: the only story that lets me believe it is She Who Hesitates BB…. otherwise.. me either…
quietheartedfsc: it ended?
lisaofnine: well i will convert you if i ever fiunish seven wonders, ok?
beachbum3668: I read an article in a mens magazine where they asked readers to vote for the sexiest Star Trek Babe and listed every female in a significant role from ALL the series.
DiNovia: back, and Bronzey, I agree.
shesgottaread: @qh: lol and I agree
Kazamen: 7 years, kim is an ensign, tom gets promoted, busted down and promoted again… just not fair lol
Jaely: Oh She Who Hesitates is what got me into B/7 in the first place
raiderl_1: i’ve never cared if it was B7, J7 or JT – like it if well written
raiderl_1: heck, even JT7!
quietheartedfsc: yes, beach?
lisaofnine: for me its all about the 7
beachbum3668: The voting results were 79% for 7 of 9….she got more than the total of the rest of the star trek females combined
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl
Ravenfairy00: it was the catsuit
lisaofnine: BB of course. they have great taste
beachbum3668: don’t we all…she still takes my breath away
Kazamen: I dont know, personally i would have put Ezri up on the hottest list
quietheartedfsc: yes, she’s better all the time
shesgottaread: not surprised, even the gay guys I know when I tell ’em I read J/7, they’re like *yes!*
wolvie_dk: just curious, who got second place?
lisaofnine: raven, no, i i was a catsuit i would have gooten 1 vote. dinovia’s… and then under duress. LOL
beachbum3668: who cares?
beachbum3668: Hang on. lemme see if I can find it
lisaofnine: i am guessing dax
quietheartedfsc: oh, yeah…
lisaofnine: the spots… yum
Jaely: which dax?
the_dhamphir: only if you mean jadzia dax
quietheartedfsc: still want to connect the dots and see where they end
Kazamen: Yes lisa Ezri Dax.. Loved her
DiNovia: in addition to being beautiful, though, Jeri is kinda the total geek girl package. Anyone who tweets about standing in line to see HP7 part 2 is my kinda geek.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Mmmm…. Jadzia…
lisaofnine: a jadzia fic was my first trek fic
Jaely: I lost interest after Jadzia died..
the_dhamphir: Jadzia… yummy
Gin Akasarahsmom: what’s she doing lately… terry Ferrell?
lisaofnine: jae; me too
DiNovia: my first trek fic was a crusher/troi, unpublished
Jaely: and I thought they should have brought Kahn back… but that’s just me.
Ravenfairy00: true Di
Ravenfairy00: but i can’t help that i fell in love with janeway mostly casue of kate.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Do you think the Voyager fandom has ran it’s course or are there still things to explore in it?
wolvie_dk: Gin: Terry’s last IMDB entry is from 2003 so I’m guessing… not much of anything?
Gin Akasarahsmom: the stories often seem to be the same to me, lately
lisaofnine: terry f- nothing new on IMDB since 2004
lisaofnine: opps 2003
beachbum3668: Yup…Jadzia Dax was 2nd…she had, like 12% of the votes
Gin Akasarahsmom: thanks… I could have looked it up myself… I was kinda just thinking outloud.. LOL
lisaofnine: i think there are more stroies to be told.
charlistorm: I think its one fandom I never get tired of reading
Jaely: I think there is more that could have been told…
DiNovia: Gin: I personally believe there’s much to explore in it and even had a grand idea about a very, very long fic but I haven’t been able to carve out the time.
lisaofnine: poor terry F, I came in secon? great, what percent? …ummm 12
the_dhamphir: I’d like to see more B/7 stories being told. ; )
Kazamen: here here!
Gin Akasarahsmom: Do you find you like reading the sort of.. beginnings of the relationship, first kiss type stories,, or would you rather the relationship be established when the story begins?
beachbum3668: I think part of the appeal is that TPTB let the writers have some fun with the subtext because it put bodies in front of the screens
Jaely: I agree dhamphir
Kazamen: I like the stories that start from scract
thebronzey: beginnings all the way!
wolvie_dk: As they say, half the fun is getting there
Jaely: yes I want to see how the love starts
shesgottaread: start from scratch, but continuing the relationship is great!
DiNovia: Gin: I like all three but prefer long intro to the relationship stories. Spoiled by lisa’s SWH, I think.
beachbum3668: Me too…I love the trials and tribulations of the two of them trying desperately to NOT be attracted to each other’
Gin Akasarahsmom: You think the stories set in the Delta quadrant are better than the ones after they return to Earth?
the_dhamphir: I like stories about their beginnings
lisaofnine: i prefer to start from where they are now and show how they came to be together, otherwise, the reader cant see past cannon… in my mind
lisaofnine: i do have a sequel to she who hesitates rattling around my brain, but its been years since i touched it
shesgottaread: not partial to one or the other Gin
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes.. I also like the ones that they try to fight their feelings..
Kazamen: Touch it Lisa!
thebronzey: a first kiss done well > all
Kazamen: Touch it now!!!
Jaely: please touch it Lisa!
Jaely: I love that story and read it a few times a year
lisaofnine: there is so much that would come up with the return to earth. if i wrote that, it would be really long, even for me, to cover the red tape and other issues
DylanChase: somewhere, someone is regretting their choice of words lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: don’t touch it Lisa… grab it… throw it against the wall and.. um… well.. hehehe… just go ahead and write it eh?
DiNovia: Gin: I have seen a trend in the post-return stories to have the couple in question separated by impossible circumstances, so I prefer Delta Quadrant stories. But, if a post-return story is well-done, well, I can’t not read it.
beachbum3668: I prefer post Endgame stories…whole lots more freedom
lisaofnine: geez, now you all sound like erin
Jaely: agrees with Gin
lisaofnine: err.. i mean, that she encourages me to write.
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
foodie14: Who is this "erin" person????
lisaofnine: foodie : some chic tha followed me home and my two cats begged to keep her
DiNovia: aaaaaand DiNovia turns red…in more than font
beachbum3668: Ok, here’s one….is it easier or harder to write in a fandom with such a vast amount of Canon?
lisaofnine: BB both
alannasky: meow…hi…just came in
foodie14: Oh THAT "Erin"… got it.
Jaely: depends on the story you are writing…
lisaofnine: easier because you can research, harder because if you dont research, people let you know
alannasky: cats yay
beachbum3668: Oh yeah, ST fans are by far the most well-informed fans. They don’t lwt you get away with ANYTHING!
lisaofnine: our kitty babies run the house.
DiNovia: BB very good question. I think it is easier to write it from personality pov and less so because of the science involved. take my round robin piece for instance. i now know more about warp theory and warp physics than i ever wanted to…..
lisaofnine: BB which makes writing trek fic the best place you hone your skills at keeping characters true
beachbum3668: I know….I mean, I can actually explain how a slipstream drive works.
lisaofnine: which is why trek has inspire SO much of our current tech
quietheartedfsc: scary, isn’t it
DiNovia: Lisa, yes. Nothing puts me off more in a ST story than a deliberate departure from canon with no plausible reason.
Jaely: you know the techno babble is what keeps making me not want to publish my ST stories… I have like three written but I’m so worried about the tech that I don’t want to post it and have the flames that I got it wrong…
lisaofnine: all todays cell phone invents, ipad folks… grew up watching trek
Kazamen: Scary? Hell no! Exciting? Hells yea!!
shesgottaread: betas, Jaely
DiNovia: Jaely, are they b/7?
quietheartedfsc: I mean how much tech you learn, just trying to write a small story
lisaofnine: jae: get a technobabel beta reader!
lisaofnine: VJB is a flame free zone
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah… just find a beta reader to check it for you
Jaely: I’ve tried to get betas but no one has come forward
DiNovia: Publish them at VJB then. Very gentle, no flames. Part of the rules. Our group would LOVE new stories.
Jaely: and yes they are all B7
alannasky: yay new stories
Gin Akasarahsmom: and if you do get a comment saying that something is incorrect.. just check it.. and if they’re right then change it…
lisaofnine: umm yes please
Gin Akasarahsmom: and say thank you for pointing it out
Kazamen: Yea at VJB everyone is just happy to read anything, and then have great feedback
Jaely: ok I will see about posting them there
lisaofnine: you could post it as a beta version and ask for suggestions sent to you privately
Jaely: is that an option?
beachbum3668: What about playing around with the dynamic between the characters?
alannasky: hey shegottaread has a question i think?
lisaofnine: vjb is like a family, only not as F*cked up as real family.. like family with moms that allow no fighting
lisaofnine: i missed the question… let me backtrack
shesgottaread: yeah, I was wondering if anyone’s read the post-endgame novels, and how have they impacted your writing of VOY fic?
shesgottaread: *takes my hand down*
beachbum3668: I haven’t read any of them deliberately.
Jaely: nope I’ve never read them.. so they have not empacted my (thus far un posted) stories
lisaofnine: i havent read ANY trek novels except one.. it was set in the mirror verse and i was hoping for some lesbian 7 of 9… and i just remember be grouchy when i finished it
beachbum3668: I own them all, but I’m not going to read them until I decide to quit writing J/7
Daxilla: you read them on accident?
Daxilla: oh wait… wrong inflection lol
DiNovia: SGR: I stay away from the novels because it adds so much to the research. They have more leeway with canon and then I have to go and determine what is canon and what is not and then….well. Too much work. LOL
shesgottaread: lol. I scanned ’em in the store to see if I should buy ’em for beta-dutes
Gin Akasarahsmom: novels often contradict each other
Gin Akasarahsmom: at least they do in the TNG ones…
lisaofnine: so do epeisodes
Jaely: oh yes they do
shesgottaread: true, Gin. as do episodes.
DiNovia: Exactly, Gin.
lisaofnine: and then the movies….
DiNovia: True. Oh, the life of a ST fanfic writer. If we can do the research, why can’t they? LOL
beachbum3668: Well stated
lisaofnine: and kahless on a crutch … do not get me started on that abomination "Enterprise"
beachbum3668: I have a whole file drawer full of research for D&d
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… I have only ever seen ONE episode of Enterprise…
Gin Akasarahsmom: and that is all I want to see
Kazamen: … seen the whole series 😛
quietheartedfsc: Enterprise is like the book dwp…never seen it, never will
beachbum3668: I gave up of ST after they paired Seven with Plankhead
the_dhamphir: I’ve got it on DVD because, well, it completes my ST set. ; )
lisaofnine: i was so excited to watch it, then… it opened with WORDS to the hokey theme song and knew the world was ending. seventh seal was broken… started hoarding food for like three minutes until i switched channels
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol… lets hear it for OCD
Kazamen: yea, i never understood Chuckles and 7.. never made sense
alannasky: My question is actually for not just the writers but everyone…which sites would you recommend to read STV fanfics? and which authors do u like?
blackgrl71: Love that nickname for him
beachbum3668: I really think Beltran won a bet with what’s his ass and that’s why Seven went with him
Gin Akasarahsmom: I read it on fanfiction.net
Jaely: which pairing?
LZClotho: there was a fic "Close Enough" (I think) which was the only "logical" explanation for C/7… because they both wanted Kathryn and couldn’t have/get her.
Kazamen: I know eh? Q is beast
lisaofnine: seven an chuckles was done by brannon braga to kill all the seven slash fic. had to be
LZClotho: but C/7 is generally verboten in my computer. LOL
beachbum3668: Was Braga drunk at the time?
Gin Akasarahsmom: it’s just wrong
beachbum3668: On so many levels
Gin Akasarahsmom: he hated her… there is no way he would have gotten past that
DiNovia: allana: I tend to stake out P&P for fics, and the VJB group.
Jaely: agrees with Di
LZClotho: I dramatized that entire Braga/Beltran exchange in my fic
Kazamen: Well, passion and perfection is a great site
beachbum3668: and did it well, LZ
Kazamen: has a great section for VOY stuff
beachbum3668: I was so infuriated I quit watching the franchise after that
Gin Akasarahsmom: P & P is the best
LZClotho: Yeah, i did too, Beach
wolvie_dk: chuckles happened because the only ones available for 7 were him and Janers… and they didn’t have the guts to make her gay
lisaofnine: i read at ralst.com and vjb when i have time. oh wait. i DO have time now. (sneaks off to check for updates…)
slave2free: agree with Gin
DiNovia: I stopped watching it with the marriage of B’Elanna and Tom. It went against everything my heart and mind told me about Klingon honor. Couldn’t watch that.
beachbum3668: You know, in the original storyboards for Seven of Nine, she was supposed to be gay
blackgrl71: there’s also this awesome monster-novel fic by Bearblue & Llachlan called Wonders of the House of Presba
quietheartedfsc: I didn’t watch Endgame until last year….how’s that for stubborn…still wish I hadn’t
Kazamen: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Voq_Je_Bang/ for those who want/dont know it
beachbum3668: For one brief shining moment, somebody at Paramount tried
Jaely: Yeah Di I had such a hard time after that and watched rarely
alannasky: thank you guys and yeah i have p&p in my fav list
Kazamen: Yea! WOHP was a great great series!
beachbum3668: I shudder when I have to watch him touching her
lisaofnine: question for everyone… what draws you into a fic you come across? in those few instans when you start the first lines? AND what sends you screaming for the page back button?
DiNovia: BG: yes. I’ve read it but many won’t because it goes against their squicks.
LZClotho: out of character dialogue throws me out of a fic instantly.
beachbum3668: My biggest bugaboo is spelling andpunctuation and un-beta’d stuff.
lisaofnine: my text is frozen. be right back
LZClotho: atrocious grammar will be next… stuff that just makes it hard to even comprehend.
Kazamen: Usually whenever the story starts with B’Elanna swearing, it pulls me in
LZClotho: also writing adult characters as if they are 14/15 yrs old
LZClotho: I work with that age group. I do not want to read that age group
jazwriter: and vise-versa LZ…inappropriate thoughts/language from a child throws me out of a story
Jaely: clear characterization… if they sound right and the writing is well done at the start then I will give it a go
lisaofnine: LZ: *snort*
DiNovia: LZ: agree.
lisaofnine: grammar gets me ever time
blackgrl71: i can deal w/ an occassional grammar mistake (since i’m as yet perfect & don’t have a consistent beta) as long as it doesn’t color the WHOLE fic.
thebronzey: boringness makes me leave a fic… I want some sort of plot beyond "I’m attracted to you. This is hard. Am I gay? Oh nos. More attraction. Processing time!" stfu at that point…
beachbum3668: You can tell pretty early on if they’ve got their characterizations right. If not, I run for the hills
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’m horrible at grammar
DiNovia: I’m usually thrown out by OOC and bad grammar and FORMATTING. I’m pulled in by a compelling opening line, humor….
LZClotho: agree, beach
quietheartedfsc: ok, ya’ll need to approve me since it took me 4 tries to join
beachbum3668: That’s why they invented beta readers, hon
blackgrl71: too much fluffiness tends to drive me away
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lisaofnine: also, writing dialogue they would never say SEVEN: "So, lana, what’s up?" B: "just chillin in the holodeck" BLECH
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl
beachbum3668: I started a fic not too long ago where they had B’Elanna saying O.M.G.
LZClotho: fluffiness often goes hand in hand with under-aged characterization or dialogue… if it’s too cute it is NOT Janeway or Seven. Neither woman was ever CUTE in their speech.
Daxilla: bleh…. OOC dialogue always kills a story
DiNovia: LOL honey
Gin Akasarahsmom: Seven is always very formal
blackgrl71: that is all kinds of ridiculous. but getting the character’s… personality right is key for me. i tend to do x-overs so that’s a challenge i’m really mindful of
beachbum3668: She’s formal, but contrary to public opinion she DOES use contractions
Gin Akasarahsmom: oh yes.. she does… it’s more efficient.
the_dhamphir: yeah, she’s not Data
DiNovia: I LOVE writing Seven’s dialogue. I find it a personal challenge to be succinct and efficient in my speech, so I appreciate the challenge of writing her.
lisaofnine: true, but NOT, ‘ what’s up’
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. no.. not "What’s up"
Daxilla: I love writing Seven too… she always made me giggle
thebronzey: "sup bitches" is better *nods*
DiNovia: LOL bronzey
blackgrl71: very true about Janeway or Seven… B’Lanna doesn’t do fluffy very often either
lisaofnine: bronz: much better
Gin Akasarahsmom: writing Seven is fun
beachbum3668: I agree…so much potential there
lisaofnine: 7 to janeway and torres: "Sup bitches?" torres" bitches?" pounces on seven in cat fight
lisaofnine: 7: to self. "works every time
blackgrl71: oh, and ‘hi’!
beachbum3668: and, personally, I give thanks nightly for whoever invented the prosthetic they used for her ocular implant. Every time she cocked her eyebrow it moved and my knees get weak
lisaofnine: BB i think jeri actually had that at birth. they cover it with makeup for other roles
beachbum3668: "Yes, Captain." *eyebrow twitch* ::BeachBum passes out::
DiNovia: I think what draws me to both characters is their journey to accepting themselves and seeing how that manifests in their lives. If someone were to write B’Elanna embracing her Human side more in a fic, I would read it because I’d be interested to see the outcome.
lisaofnine: BB for me it would be "Your engine, lt?" twitch…. then i faint
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lisaofnine: i cannot read any unimatric xero fic. i was SO grossedout by that
DiNovia: Lisa: SECONDED
the_dhamphir: that just… didn’t fit well into the series
beachbum3668: I agree. One of my favorite episodes is the one where the Vidiians separated her human and Klingon halves.
lisaofnine: i think that was there "QUICK! make seven NOT gay. she’s pinging gaydar on every station"
beachbum3668: And SO not well done. I agree. Unimatrix Zero makes me nauseous
DiNovia: Charli and QH: I just subbed you to VJB. You’ll get your welcome emails shortly!
lisaofnine: bb: i didn’t care for the klingon half, and i thought the human was too weak. it would have been AWESOME to have those reversed, that she gets her strength from her human half
thebronzey: What’s your favorite subtext moment on the show? Or moment that you felt should have been more subtexy?
Daxilla: "YOu belong with us."
lisaofnine: SON OF K’Vok
DiNovia: Bronzey;: Son of K’Vok
wolvie_dk: The Son of K’vok!
Daxilla: should have been "you belong with me"
beachbum3668: hands down, the last 5 minutes of Dark Fontier
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t know the episodes that well
lisaofnine: son of K, cheek bite…
beachbum3668: janeway tucking Seven into her alcove and saying "sweet Dreams"
lisaofnine: seven has a split personallity moment.. and tries to mate with b’elanna. b’elana seems more put out by the TIMING of the bite, not the bite
lisaofnine: bb: which I read as "Sweet dreams" to which seven thought "they will be. they will be able my hot headed little klingon engineer"
DiNovia: Infinite Regress is my favorite episode for understanding the character of Seven. It shows so much depth that we normally didn’t get to see.
lisaofnine: Di: agreed
beachbum3668: Not to mention it showcased Jeri Ryan as a talented actress
DiNovia: I think my favorite episode for understanding B’Elanna’s character would have to be Barge of the Dead.
lisaofnine: i have wnated to write a piece about the fall out from that forever.
DiNovia: BB: agreed.
lisaofnine: bb: jeri was insanely good in that ep
lisaofnine: jeri as a ferenghi? as a child? scared ensign? klingon? vulcan? WOW
beachbum3668: How about when the Doctor had to take refuge in her cortical node. Jeri had Bob Picardo COLD.
Kazamen: the ferenghi was hilarious
the_dhamphir: yes, she did!
shesgottaread: BB, you are totally right!
Gin Akasarahsmom: she’s just a fantastic actress
shesgottaread: I don’t think she gets enough credit for her acting chops
beachbum3668: She never did. Kate Mulgrew was mostly responsible for that. She thought Jeri was just tits and ass. Surprise! The lady could act too.
DiNovia: SGR: that’s changing a little now that she’s proven she can do more than ST. Some don’t make that transition well.
lisaofnine: they should have had her guest on DS9 as a ferenghi women’s basketball play… nude of course with the damn ears
thebronzey: she’s a very natural actress
Kazamen: I think she does… Out of all the ST actors, there are very few who do more then just ST, so the fact the she has so many other shows is proof
thebronzey: Kate’s kind of an asshole lol
DiNovia: Kaz: Body of Proof?
lisaofnine: bronzey: which kind?
blackgrl71: she’s an asshole that doesn’t work nearly as much as Jeri too… lol
lisaofnine: body of proof is great and there is SO much subtext with dana delany
Gin Akasarahsmom: she does.. she just does stage plays… not tv
beachbum3668: So what ws the cause of the chemistry between Mulgrew and Ryan onscreen? anybody want to take a stab at defining it?
thebronzey: I love Jeri in Leverage
beachbum3668: me too1
lisaofnine: bb: i thinkj mulgrew is trying intimadate jeri by "Acting!!" at her, and jeri could have chemistry with a turnip
LZClotho: Kate’s competitiveness was at the heart of the chemistry. Jeri really caused her to bring her A game every single time.
lisaofnine: LZ: agreed
LZClotho: I had to give this a lot of thought beyond the "she was secretly attracted to her" to make my story work.
Kazamen: Well, like B’Elanna and Seven, Anger can be mistaken for attraction so that could have been it
beachbum3668: I agree LZ. Kate would over-act to bully the other actors. Jeri just ramped it up and kept up with her
shesgottaread: but Kate made it too, ’cause she was staring at Jeri’s ass in Drive
thebronzey: agree LZ and lisa… they were sparring each time they were on screen
lisaofnine: plus, kate was acting INTO jeri’s breasts due to her height… lol and so, well, damn! kate, her eyes are up there!
wolvie_dk: BB: for more of that, listen to Garrett Wang’s interview at GeeksOn – hilarious and informative
thebronzey: I’d act into Jeri’s breasts all day long
beachbum3668: I’ve heard it. He tells it like it is
DiNovia: LZ: agreed. I saw Kate at a convention 5 years ago and she does tend to act the queen. But she also wanted to be certain that everyone in the audience knew she was not homophobic, too. Which is a direct response to the interview Lisa mentioned earlier.
lisaofnine: broz: i would NOT be acting
thebronzey: she could call it whatever she wanted
lisaofnine: that interview came off COMPLETELY homophobic.
Ravenfairy00: the oldest kid in a family of like what 5 kids. irish catholic. yeah it’s already ingrained in there.
thebronzey: it did! omg I had to repress that interview to continue imagining her as a giant lesbian hehe
shesgottaread: was it the ET interview? Who should be Janeway’s love interest? "DeNiro"
lisaofnine: i think anytime there are too strong female characters played by actresses who can bring it, there is going to be subtext
beachbum3668: kate doesn’t have a problem with gay men, but she’s scared to death of lesbians
lisaofnine: bronz" i wrote "she who hesitates’ in response to that interview
slave2free: LZ: Agree. Jeri was hired as eye candy, but she knocked her scenes out of the park – Mulgrew had to step it up to keep up with her or else allow Jeri to steal the spotlight completely. Mulgrew is a very good actress, but she needs someone to bring it out of her.
DiNovia: that interview and one with Lucy Lawless on Rosie are the reasons I don’t read press while writing a couple. Forgot and messed up my Otalia by following a certain person on Twitter. UGH. I hate interviews while I’m writing. LOL
lisaofnine: and chuckles wasnt bringing anything but yawns
thebronzey: lol Di
thebronzey: what? Chappelle didn’t make you want to keep writing due to her extreme awesomeness??
shesgottaread: none of the guys were really bringing much. well, maybe Picardo, but I didn’t care for the sexism in his character
lisaofnine: how about everyone else? does seeing the actor in interviews change your feeling about the fic?
DiNovia: LOL Bronzey. ‘
lisaofnine: awesomeness of vodka?
Gin Akasarahsmom: it helps me sometimes… I can mix the persona from the interview into the character…
beachbum3668: Not for me. I focus on the role they played
Kazamen: Not really, cause for me its not really the actors that i am thinking about, its the characters that are being created
shesgottaread: characters for me
thebronzey: I think I’ve learned to separate the two. Angie Harmon and Rizzoli and Isles being a good one… I think it’s hilarious how many people imagine her as a giant lesbian on a daily basis
Gin Akasarahsmom: I will sometimes have my characters say something that the actor has said in the interview…
blackgrl71: while i don’t go out of my way to avoid seeing them, i try not see interviews because oftentimes the ‘real life’ person isn’t nearly as interesting as the character i write about.
lisaofnine: shegot: i think they really were off mark having the doc be such an asshat toward women. he was a computer program. he should have been mr. political correctness
Gin Akasarahsmom: I totally separate the two in my head… there are actors which I don’t touch in stories… and there are characters that I can play with to my hearts content
beachbum3668: Ah, but look at her programmer.
slave2free: Totally separate. If an actress does her job well, we forget about her and focus on the character.
DiNovia: For me it removes me from the character too much. When I first heard LL’s real accent, I couldn’t hear Xena in my head very well anymore. It was that practical.
beachbum3668: Wait…but look at HIS programmer
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah.. Dr. Zimmerman was a total asshat
lisaofnine: i cannot separate angie harmon from her republican, social conservative values…all the why MILKING the lesbians to get them to watch her show. it infuriates me
shesgottaread: yeah, he was so 1950s to me, but I kind of got that from the other guys too. felt like a big slap in the face to feminism and what StarTrek started out as. *ignoring Kirk’s behavior*
lisaofnine: definately 1950s
Gin Akasarahsmom: if the actress is good enough, the characters are separate…
shesgottaread: oops! gotta go, drag bingo folks are here. See you all tomorrow! It’s been tons of fun!
Gin Akasarahsmom: Lindsay Boxer and Jane Rizzoli are different… but close to the same… but different enough that I can separate them out in my head…
thebronzey: I think Chappell thoroughly broke me when it comes to the whole milking the lesbians thing… I’m numb lol
beachbum3668: bye SGR
lisaofnine: see, not to me. i cant support an actress that i know doesnt believe in my rights to be equal WHILE she is playing to the subtext for ratings
Gin Akasarahsmom: they did that whole thing all wrong bronzey… Guiding Light writers were idiots
Kazamen: FLcit has a hand up 😛
libertygirl: didn’t know this was going to be political discussion. outta here
lisaofnine: at least chappell admits she is playing to the gays
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… is it political?
lisaofnine: lib: sorry
Ravenfairy00: who is chappell?
lisaofnine: ok… back to voyager. Any Kes fans here?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Crystal Chappell is an actress that is one half of the lesbian pairing on Guiding Light
Gin Akasarahsmom: was
thebronzey: crystal chappell from guiding light/venice/etc
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah… back to Voyager…
thebronzey: omg I hated Kes lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: no.. I never really cared all that much for Kes
blackgrl71: i was going to ask that…lol. also what about all the buffy fics, knowing Sarah-Michelle is a big-time Repub
Ravenfairy00: ah gotcha. thanks
beachbum3668: The only episode I like of KES was WARLORD
blackgrl71: me neither.
lisaofnine: does anyone think Kes was wasted as a character by the way she left?
Gin Akasarahsmom: that one was cool BB.. I do know that one
slave2free: FLcit has hand up
DiNovia: FLcit has a question?
blackgrl71: i was going to say, her character was almost a non-starter for me.
lisaofnine: warlord was great. she acted that so well
lisaofnine: ask away
wolvie_dk: Kes was okay but pairing her with Neelix was just weird
FLcit: There are a few writers who have incomplete J/7 stories, will they ever be completed? Y’all know who you are….LOL! If already asked apologies for being late.
beachbum3668: What? Incmplete J/7 stories? Never1
thebronzey: I think of Kes as a necessary loss to bring me my 7 of 9… then I go insane and think maybe we could have had Seven for 3 more seasons if only it hadn’t been for Kes! Then I take my meds…
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
lisaofnine: flc: ummm… oh, look a squirrel outside my window… brb. (so NOT hiding)
DiNovia: LOL Bronzey.
Kazamen: I wish Kudara would finish with ME and finish I Am Borg 😛
DiNovia: LOL Lisa
blackgrl71: neelix creeped me out a little… maybe it’s his food
beachbum3668: Yes. Decisions and Destiny WILL be finished.
Gin Akasarahsmom: as far as Kes goes… I think they came very close to having Janeway in a relationship with her… which is why the one with Seven isn’t a surprise to me…
DiNovia: FLc, for me, not likely. But I might start a new one. We’ll see.
lisaofnine: i keep swearing i will never post any of a fic unless it is complete because i hate having un anfinished ifc… which i SO have several of at the moment
Gin Akasarahsmom: posting complete is the best way
lisaofnine: gin: true
FLcit: LOL………thanks, Beach!! great, Di, Lisa ….no need to leave!! LOL
slave2free: BB: yay.
lisaofnine: i think they should have kept Kes and let tom die
DiNovia: As for the question about Kes, I think the writers wrote themselves into a corner with her.
the_dhamphir: Yeah, with her age
beachbum3668: I agree. With her shortened lifespan they really didn’t have anywhere else to go with her
lisaofnine: yes but trek has the ultimate get of jail free card… Q could have fixed that.
DiNovia: They shoe-horned a way to make her live beyond her life expectency and evicerated her character to boot.
geekgrrllurking: Or Kes could have transformed like a butterfly into an interesting character
DiNovia: GG: there is that
the_dhamphir: good point, geek
Gin Akasarahsmom: They couldn’t make her interesting before.. what makes you think they could do it after her life was supposed to be over?
DiNovia: The thing is, she WAS interesting when with the Doc. The writers screwed that up too by making her part of the Neelix subplot.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: aww…I liked Kes, especailly when she went all most have a child and eating beattles
BetweenLove_n_Hate: that was interesting.
thebronzey: kes and janeway
Kazamen: Well, personally I really only read T/7 for star trek and some Sam/Janet for Stargate
lisaofnine: i wasn’t suggesting betty white fic
Gin Akasarahsmom: sigh… I love Betty White
Gin Akasarahsmom: she’s adorable
charlistorm: no go for me is – kes
lisaofnine: kaz: i love sam/janet
thebronzey: I only ship Betty White with me
beachbum3668: Yeah, Kes and Janewayis squicky
Gin Akasarahsmom: it would depend on the writer…
slave2free: I would totally read a Betty White fic
geekgrrllurking: not a big Kes fan actually, tend to give those a skip
DiNovia: On VOY? I don’t know. I don’t think I would have been able to write a Kes fic with any confidence. I’d love to see more use of Sam Wildman in stories but she’s really quite het.
geekgrrllurking: now Betty White, there’s fanfic, lol
the_dhamphir: I don’t know, I remember reading a couple of Janeway/kes fics that weren’t too bad.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I really only read J/7… except for SWH
BetweenLove_n_Hate: There was one that I liked, I think it was by Susan Thompson where Kes was reincarnated into a hologram
lisaofnine: gin: as do i but i do not want you see a character of hers slashed which/delores umbridge
BetweenLove_n_Hate: and she got with Janeway, not so bad.
thebronzey: not saying the fics are bad… the pairing is icky
FLcit: all about J/7 over here!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl!… um… Ewww
the_dhamphir: @ between: I think that’s one of the one’s i liked too
thebronzey: j/7 4 life
beachbum3668: I vote for J/7 as the best too
lisaofnine: i thinkj kes has been made hologram in at least 2 fics. SWH is one
the_dhamphir: I still like B/7 the best
lisaofnine: me too!
thebronzey: b’elanna/7 is acceptable if done well, but I need to be won over
Kazamen: Im not really into the whole ‘group’ thing, but The Wonders Of House Presba did it well
lisaofnine: why do you think voyager fan fic is still so sctive?
Kazamen: casue the autors are bomb
thebronzey: is it active?? maybe I should ponder writing one hehe
BetweenLove_n_Hate: a desire to see a movie come out?
LZClotho: because it’s still in reruns in places. so there are new viewers to the fandom.
Gin Akasarahsmom: the authors have a lot to work with.. seven seasons..
DiNovia: If you think about it, the main females on VOY are Janeway, Kes, B’Elanna, Seven, Sam, Naomi, Mezoti….and then you have lower deck and that consists of the Delaneys and Tal Celes. Not much to work with.
lisaofnine: bronz: yes write
BetweenLove_n_Hate: yes, the re-runs certainly helped when they were still on in NY
geekgrrllurking: I think Star Trek in general is a lasting cultural thing, voyager is still a strong corner of it for femslash writers to play in
lisaofnine: plus we know which reruns to avoid… like unimatix zero
thebronzey: must finish my Once Upon a Time fic that no one is reading first
beachbum3668: SpikeTV still fills the occasional 3am time slot with Voyager
lisaofnine: bb: really?
Kazamen: i hear its on Netflix so that helps too
Gin Akasarahsmom: I think Netflix has it on streaming
beachbum3668: yeah, usually when they cant get something else to work
lisaofnine: we are getting close to the end of time, are there any more questions?
DiNovia: Voyager is also on Amazon Prime for Fire owners for free. All seasons.
the_dhamphir: we have about 16 minutes left
lisaofnine: question to writers: how much effort do you put into research for your fics? readers: how much does accurate research matter to you?
LZClotho: yes, bronzey, you must finish Madness Returns.
quietheartedfsc: as a writer..tons, weeks, months…as a reader, very much so
lisaofnine: brozey will never finish having her madness returns. ;-0
beachbum3668: I put in tons of time researching. It’s those details that really hook a reader.
thebronzey: hehe I will I should have an update tomorrow actually
charlistorm: I have not seen much of voyager so when I read fanfic I dont always know how accurate they are- if it reads well and is believble then Im happy
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t care for research.. but I usually end up doing it… like.. homework you don’t WANT to do but you have to do it or you won’t get an A on the assignment
lisaofnine: i do more research than writing. i agree it fleshes out things’
Ravenfairy00: sorry guys gotta jet off early. much love and fangirl squeeing to all the writers out there. J/7 was one of my very first otp’s/ xoxoxo
thebronzey: I mostly just avoid anything that needs research lol
the_dhamphir: I enjoy researching for a story
Kazamen: Well for me as long as it isnt a big big thing that is changed or skipped over (B’Elanna went to the engine room to fiddle with the big glowing blue thing) I can usually let it go, sometimes i like technobable but its not necessary for me
lisaofnine: gin: I am a whore for those A’s
beachbum3668: Bye Raven
lisaofnine: bye raven
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe… you have an A in my book Lisa
Ravenfairy00: bye ladies.
slave2free: The amount of research seems to be directly proportional to the authors love of the characters so I always appreciate it.
lisaofnine: not yeah to bye
lisaofnine: yea to a
lisaofnine: slave: cool. that is good to know.
Gin Akasarahsmom: if the author knows the fandom really well, they don’t have to do SO much research
the_dhamphir: that depends on what kind of story you’re writing, gin
the_dhamphir: i can know all the canon of x-files, but i still have to research stuff … medical stuff, ciminal stuff, etc
DiNovia: back and I love the research. i agree that it hooks readers, especially those in the know
Gin Akasarahsmom: but if you know the Star Trek ‘verse then you don’t have to do so much research on the terminology and such
beachbum3668: What is the most iconic thing in J7 fanfic?
Gin Akasarahsmom: so that part of the research is cut out
Gin Akasarahsmom: iconic?
beachbum3668: I vote for the WonderWand 9000
lisaofnine: gin: well, yes and no. i frequently have to research minerals, planets, theories on alternate evolutions.. ect. like, if reptiles were evolved to our inteligence, but they be bipdal due to its advantages, or would they slither. i simply have to know
FLcit: I am so happy that I have all 7 seasons of Voyager on DVD and not sugject to the whim of a network to show it in some ungodly time slot…LOL!
DiNovia: oh fanon LOL
the_dhamphir: I agree with you, lisa
Gin Akasarahsmom: right… that kind..
beachbum3668: I was never a
DiNovia: Reason # 3,142 why I love Lisa. LOL She has to know.
Gin Akasarahsmom: but you wouldn’t have to research the way they speak… "Red Alert"… would be natural.. instead of.. "Sound the alarm".. things like that..
beachbum3668: TNG or DS( fan so i had to research the dominion War extensovely
lisaofnine: well i do!
beachbum3668: My typing is deteriorating
slave2free: Gin: I get your point. Those who have watched all the episodes for love of the series already know the characters and most of the tech babble.
thebronzey: we must have a similar personality type, Lisa hehe
Gin Akasarahsmom: if you don’t KNOW something then obviously research it… but if you already know the fandom… then there are certain things you wouldn’t have to research
Gin Akasarahsmom: right… that’s all I’m saying slave
lisaofnine: yeah, the bable, but there are a few great sites that pull ALL the shows and movies into chronological order
beachbum3668: I use them. I can never remember which deck Cargo bay 2 is on
lisaofnine: that helps with stuff like that time travel round robin on VJB right now
DiNovia: I still use Janet’s VOY site to research Voy–everything from ship decks to room layouts to episode names, to crew death dates….
lisaofnine: BB: you totally should get the tech manuals on amazon.
Gin Akasarahsmom: right
beachbum3668: I have them
lisaofnine: love them.
beachbum3668: And Janet’s site is bookmarked
lisaofnine: they are my nerd bibles
beachbum3668: couldn’t agree more
lisaofnine: dammit janet, i want whats true
DiNovia: who is this Janet woman and why is she never in one of these rooms??? LOL I love that site. It helped me with QOH SO much
lisaofnine: sorry. RHPS moment
lisaofnine: dear god.. i see a voyager/RHPS xover on the way
beachbum3668: I think the doctor would be enchanting in fishnets
lisaofnine: "we are in orbit over the planet transexual transulvainia"
lisaofnine: bb" ew
lisaofnine: my eyes!
wolvie_dk: would 7 be Rocky then?
lisaofnine: lana and doc frank
wolvie_dk: in little gold shorts?
beachbum3668: Oh please let it be so
lisaofnine: wolv: no, she is janet
thebronzey: who would Chakotay be?
wolvie_dk: cousin eddie. he dies right?
thebronzey: *asks the hard hitting questions*
lisaofnine: except in this version, they kill brad(chuckles) and she runs off with dr frank(lana)
DiNovia: PS Just checked: Janet’s VOY site is gone.
lisaofnine: is it in the wayback machine?
wolvie_dk: are we almost out of time?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Yes… two minutes left
beachbum3668: One last question….does anybody else have a model of Voyager or one of the action figures on their desk?
wolvie_dk: what happens if we go over the time limit?
Gin Akasarahsmom: nothing.. wolvie..
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
thebronzey: we get vaporized
the_dhamphir: umm. not on my desk… on some bookshelves
DiNovia: I have them in storage, BB. But I won’t give them up.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t have a desk
lisaofnine: bb: absolutely not! and I CERTAINLY do not have a closet full of Seven of nine action figues. in 3 colors
quietheartedfsc: sorry, mine’s Xena
charlistorm: I still have Geordi Lar Forge from way back…
beachbum3668: touch my model of Voyager and die
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl
lisaofnine: and I especially do NOT have crates of xena and gabby and calisto action figures in the rafters of our shed
slave2free: Thanks panelists. It’s been a blast.
Kazamen: Thanks everyone! had a great time
Gin Akasarahsmom: good times
beachbum3668: Thanks to the mods and organizers
lisaofnine: its been great having everyone here!
lisaofnine: you guys are awesome
Gin Akasarahsmom: yepper… great chats
lisaofnine: bb: I second that
FLcit: Yes, thanks all.
wolvie_dk: thanks. had a great time
Shatterpath: and more tomorrow!
Kazamen: Now give a round of applause for the panalists!
DylanChase: thank you all!
Kazamen: (clapping at home)
DiNovia: Goodnight everyone! Always a pleasure to be a part of this.
charlistorm: *claps* thanks everyone
lisaofnine: and for the chatroom folks as well
LZClotho: thank you everyone! this was great!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: goodnight DiNovia, have a pleasant evening
Jaely: lisa I have to go read your story again now!