alannasky: meow mew xena…woo hoo
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xena!
Ceridwyn2: now XWP. Ah, my old love
ariestess: Transcripts will be available after the con is over. Give us a couple of weeks ot recover and get them all ready for you, then they’ll be on the femslashday.com site.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I haven’t been in the Xena fandom for quite some time…
Gin Akasarahsmom: I do have fond memories though
alannasky: Xena is my first fandom and i always go back to it
Gin Akasarahsmom: Whoever is on the panel here needs to change their font to red and introduce themselves.
AlexReading: @Gin seems like I’ve never left. But reading more uber and original than Xena fic these days.
Del Robertson: Hi. Del Robertson
Ceridwyn2: I’ve just gotten back recently into the fandom via Melissa Good’s series of stories & watching the show on Netflix
Gin Akasarahsmom: I moved on… I’ve been fairly active in DWP lately
Gin Akasarahsmom: I practically have Missy’s stories memorized LOL
Gin Akasarahsmom: but I read them AS she was writing them!
Gin Akasarahsmom: that is how long I’ve been in and/or out of it
alannasky: meow thats good
ledoof: I’m a noob. Only got into the show about a year ago and the fanfic shortly after.
Ceridwyn2: yes, I also read them at the time, and was on the XWP Campfire Girls listserv
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. hitting refresh refresh refresh.. hoping the next refresh would bring an update…
Gin Akasarahsmom: ah… those were the days
alannasky: i have been with the series since it began and later got into the fanfics
AlexReading: those were the days!
Ceridwyn2: same here. Early days
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. hey Del! Sorry.. didn’t mean to ignore ya there .
Stacicle: Oh the Campfire Grrls, that brings back memories.
wolvie_dk: xena got me started with femslash waaaay back in … ’96
alannasky: Welcome Wonderful Del!!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: yepper Wolvie…. I started in Xena too… it was an eye opener
Stacicle: Me too, wolvie, my first fandom ever.
Gin Akasarahsmom: technically Star Trek was my first fandom… but for online reading… it was Xena
wolvie_dk: oh good. don’t feel quite so old now
AlexReading: yes, more specifically MissyGood.
Del Robertson: i started reading xena – then writing- and haven’t left her yet
Ceridwyn2: I remember watching "A Day in the Life" and my father came down the stairs and goes, "Is this a lesbian show?" well, yes.
Ceridwyn2: it was at the point where X&G were in the hot tub
Gin Akasarahsmom: I don’t think I read Missy first… I read other things… then found Missy’s stuff
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… yes… yes it is Dad… why do you ask??
alannasky: funny my parents were never clue in to the show
AlexReading: Is Dax here? I totally blame Dax for her site.
Ceridwyn2: I was out at the time, so it didn’t matter to them
Gin Akasarahsmom: mine were… but they didn’t like the idea so they chose to ignore it… rofl.. Dad had an easier time ignoring it than mom did
Del Robertson: did you have to explain the ‘kiss’ to them?
Ceridwyn2: To the parentals? No, as they didn’t watch the show. Neither of them were into SF/F stuff
Del Robertson: favorite episodes?
alannasky: i think most it was the time when mom was home at times but mostly she had recently gotten a new job so i usually watch the show without parental supervision
Gin Akasarahsmom: One Against an Army… and The Price
Ceridwyn2: Even tho it was angsty – "The Quest"
Gin Akasarahsmom: good one Ceri
Ceridwyn2: But OAAA was great
ponyis1: I started reading classic Xena and still enjoy it, but find that the new stories that flesh out some of the minor characters are the most fun to read.
Del Robertson: For me, almost anything with Amazons. (except Amarice)
alannasky: too many to choose from
Gin Akasarahsmom: I only wrote three Xena stories… and they were all classified Conqueror
Ceridwyn2: I loved how Melissa fleshed out the Amazon characters
alannasky: but i always wathcing is there a doctor in the house
erinoreilly: can’t remember the name but it was the one where they had lice and the mange
Gin Akasarahsmom: Amazons are fun to write
Ceridwyn2: Well, any character
Ceridwyn2: Loved Ephiny & Solari
Del Robertson: @ponyis1: which minor characters do you prefer?
AlexReading: @rinoreilly nooo, not that one. but that was just x&G being totally married.
ponyis1: Ahhh, Pony!
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… I was gonna say…
Ceridwyn2: Eponin. Also good
Ceridwyn2: Callisto. Just because.
Del Robertson: @erin: in sickness and in hell is what you’re thinking of.
erinoreilly: thanks Del
alannasky: mmm…amazon-ephiny, traveling- joxer, random show up- toss between sal and autolytucus
Del Robertson: everytime i wath that with Gabrielle hanging her head off the bed while she interrogates that guy makes me gag
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah.. it’s gross
Del Robertson: watch that, i meant
Del Robertson: but hilarious. i like the comedy episodes best
Gin Akasarahsmom: the romantic ones are nice
alannasky: evi characters- hope and callisto
geekgrrllurking: callisto was my favourite too
Ceridwyn2: A Day in the Life was also awesome. When X&G are sitting by the pond as Hower goes to get sticks and they start talking about the attraction of the leathers
Del Robertson: and Gabrielle gets hit by the eel
ponyis1: Why do you think Xena fanfic has retained the popularity that it has?
Ceridwyn2: and attracting a kinkier crowd
Ceridwyn2: I think maybe because it was one of the first that didn’t shy away from strong female characters
Del Robertson: i think it’s beause it was one of the first shows out there that didn’t try to hide the attraction/chemistry between women
Gin Akasarahsmom: There is one where I think it’s Gabrielle’s birthday and they are going back to Amphipolis… when they get there Cyrene says something and Gabrielle scratches her nose and mumbles… "She’s your mom"… that is a "Yeah, they are SO married" moment for me.. LOL
erinoreilly: Del which character do you like writing for?
Del Robertson: I like Eponin, Ephiny and Solari. The big Amazon three.
Ceridwyn2: Oh, the one where Xena finds out she’s pregnant and Ares learns and asks who the father is – Gabrielle
Gin Akasarahsmom: of course it’s Gabrielle!
AlexReading: Gab and her smirks.
geekgrrllurking: it should have been Gabrielle
alannasky: its riding of the waves of emotions and not being afraid to tackle things head on
Ceridwyn2: I like when Ares learns to respect Gabrielle.
Ceridwyn2: He might not like the hold she has with Xena but he starts to respect her
Gin Akasarahsmom: I will never forgive him for messing up Xena’s plan and putting them in cold storage…
alannasky: ceri, u can lower that hand
Gin Akasarahsmom: he stole Eve’s childhood from Xena…
Ceridwyn2: Didn’t know it was still raised
Ceridwyn2: I pressed raise hand and unraise but it won’t go away
alannasky: true gin and no problem ceri
erinoreilly: do any of you authors ever think about publishing your stories with other names for the characters
alannasky: its unraise now
Gin Akasarahsmom: I was approached several times by publishers to change the names in my stories…
Gin Akasarahsmom: but I refused
Ceridwyn2: I thought of doing it with my Spooks story but not XWP
Gin Akasarahsmom: because they aren’t original characters… they ARE Xena and Gabrielle. changing the names felt wrong to me
erinoreilly: ok fair enough
AlexReading: @Gin *hug*
Del Robertson: i have thought of that, not w/xena, but some other characters
Ceridwyn2: one, they’re very short stories, and some of my earliest fic. not the best of what I have
Gin Akasarahsmom: I will write originals to publish
Gin Akasarahsmom: there’s time
erinoreilly: I just wondered if there was a market for the stories since most of them are outstanding reads
Del Robertson: I think if you have supporting characters that grow into thei own life, that’s okay
Del Robertson: their. my keyboard hates me today
alannasky: yeah there are a few that i have read and the authors have publish them
alannasky: though most were uber or alt reality
geekgrrllurking: I think the X/G stories are hard to turn into original fic, but the uber X/G fics are really original fics
Gin Akasarahsmom: many of the early published authors were Uber/AU stories of Xena…
AlexReading: most of them are xena ubers or rather originals posted on xena archives.
Ceridwyn2: I do love that Melissa was able to really distinguish Dar & Kerry as separate
ponyis1: Yet, new classic Xena is still very popular judging by the response of the Academy readers to Del’s Amazon stories. But so few writers are doing any classic Xena.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Missy’s is… The whole Tropical Storm series is a Xena Uber/AU
Gin Akasarahsmom: but yes… with good writing they become distinct and original
Del Robertson: @ponyis1:thanks.glad you read my stuff
Ceridwyn2: Gun Shy was another book I’d read but I can’t remember the author atm
Gin Akasarahsmom: sounds familiar
Ceridwyn2: that was an uber
erinoreilly: it is where most of us started to read these stories and I think they hold a special place for many readers.
Stacicle: Lori Lake I think
Ceridwyn2: yes, that’s it
geekgrrllurking: I think ubers are a good way for learning writers to figure out how to start to write original fic
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… fanfic is a great way to practice
Ceridwyn2: Where I get a number of them now is pdafiction.com
Stacicle: Tender is the Night, or Glass Houses as it was publishe, by Llachlan was another fave
geekgrrllurking: you still feel safe and familiar with the characters but you are stretching into new territory and plotting ideas
ponyis1: That makes sense.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xena started a lot of people’s writing careers
alannasky: true gin
AlexReading: @ Ceri the beginning, Accidental Love or Lucifer Rising.
shesgottaread: Gun Shy is by Lori L. Lake, iirc
erinoreilly: Del will you always write a Xena story even if you go to uber or original. I really love your stories
geekgrrllurking: @SGR Lucifer Rising is excellent!
alannasky: meow good stoirs
Ceridwyn2: I remember reading that
Del Robertson: I’ve written other stories, besides Xena. I have one published book abou pirates and my new publisher is helping me to expand my work
Gin Akasarahsmom: that’s cool Del
shesgottaread: Lucifer Rising is excellent! I only wish Ms. Bowers had finished her sequel
Ceridwyn2: very cool
alannasky: cool del…what is the title of the pirate one?
wolvie_dk: I read Accidental Love at least once a year. Love it
AlexReading: They were ubers, but Tiopa ki Lokota, an original was a good read too.
Ceridwyn2: who wrote accidental Love?
Del Robertson: Taming the Wolff.
Del Robertson: BL Miller wrote Accidental Love
AlexReading: BL Miller
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL.. wow.. all these names that I haven’t heard in ages
Ceridwyn2: Yes, now that sounds familiar
alannasky: TkL was a greeat read for me and i do go back to it at moments
AlexReading: oops, I think I spelt TKL wrong. sorry.
alannasky: i think i have read the other two also but cant remember right now
AlexReading: The late LJ Maas wrote None So Blind. *cry*
alannasky: ]meow i have read a lot of xena fics
Del Robertson: BL Miller wrote a lot of great classic xena
Ceridwyn2: Lzclotho, too, I think as well.
alannasky: LJ Maas…we miss you
Ceridwyn2: I also liked the Mel/Janice stories
alannasky: clotho and miller are good writers
erinoreilly: I think some of those earlier writers put todays authors to shame there were excellent stories
Gin Akasarahsmom: I cringe when I go back and look at my Xena stories
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
AlexReading: Bat Morda?
Ceridwyn2: me, too
Gin Akasarahsmom: WordWarrior
alannasky: in most cases corrcect erin
Ceridwyn2: I love long, well-written stories
erinoreilly: it is sad
alannasky: yeah erin
Del Robertson: sometimes, a short story can do the trick, too. if it’s got a good, tight ploot
alannasky: good long stories are good
Del Robertson: plot
Stacicle: Della Street and Ella Quince, ahhhh
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep
AlexReading: yes too.
alannasky: actually there is a good author right now who is writting long stories in the xena section
Del Robertson: Who?
alannasky: Della Street and Ella Quince…meow so many favorties
wolvie_dk: Mavis and Larisa have always been favorites of mine
Ceridwyn2: yeah? who?
AlexReading: *cough* we have to ask.
Ceridwyn2: And what arhcive?
Gin Akasarahsmom: I haven’t read any Xena stories in a very long time
alannasky: let me check the name right now…and its in ffnet
Gin Akasarahsmom: and the tension mounts….
alannasky: silvermoonlight GJ
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
Del Robertson: so, what’s it about?
Ceridwyn2: Haven’t been there in ages
alannasky: she has few stories but each one is a bit long
alannasky: hell in one of them she adds aztec gods
alannasky: or he…dont know sex yet
alannasky: like to keep myself in suspense with this author
Del Robertson: I like the Academy of Bards site. They have so much Xena stuff archived
alannasky: too true del
Gin Akasarahsmom: I check MaryD’s Ausxip site every once in a while too
Gin Akasarahsmom: for the older things…
Ceridwyn2: writing these down in notepad for future reference
Gin Akasarahsmom: the Bard’s corner is a great place to find favorites
Del Robertson: I ran across the Xena Library one day
alannasky: as far the story im reading right now from him is based on the idea that xena is ruler of the world and gabrielle is the king of the lycans
erinoreilly: where did you find that Del
Del Robertson: I need to add passion and perfection to that list- since ralst published my very1st fanfic
Del Robertson: @erin:try yahoo search. it looks fairly new
Ceridwyn2: most present fic reading is B5 (Sel Vecanti’s "Reunion")
AlexReading: oh, I just checked, Xenafan.com is still there
Gin Akasarahsmom: sigh… I can’t get away from B5
Gin Akasarahsmom: it’s weird for me to read it anymore though
Gin Akasarahsmom: xenafan.com…. which site was that?
erinoreilly: ok thanks Del
alannasky: though gab is not the happy or forgiable girl as in other stories
Ceridwyn2: lol. this story is set during S5, with a focus on Ivanova after she leaves B5 for her own command
AlexReading: Tom’s Xena fan fiction archive. OLD stories.
Ceridwyn2: Oh, wow. I remember that archive
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah.. Ceri.. but that would almost be worse… because I know Claudia.. LOL.. so reading about her characters is often odd to me
erinoreilly: is it still around?
Gin Akasarahsmom: yeah… Tom’s… they posted like part of one of my stories and then stopped taking submissions..
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
wolvie_dk: the Athenaeum is good, esp. for uber
Gin Akasarahsmom: All my stuff is on MaryD’s site though
Ceridwyn2: I don’t think so. Well you could probably find it thru waybackmachine but I forget the original URL. You could probably google it
alannasky: sorry my comp kick me out so i have no idea what happen just a few min ago
Library_Rio: @Del Robertson, tanks for the mention of the Xena Library. Unfortunately it’s been down all day
AlexReading: the auto format let me download stories for my palm. those were the days, I didn’t have to do it myself.
Del Robertson: @gin: how do we find maryD’s site and your stuff?
Gin Akasarahsmom: www.ausxip.com
Gin Akasarahsmom: go to the Bard’s corner
AlexReading: maryD is a ausxip
Del Robertson: thanks.
Gin Akasarahsmom: and look up Gin
Gin Akasarahsmom: you need to read them in order though… for some reason they alphabetize them on the site…
Gin Akasarahsmom: Negotiations is first
Gin Akasarahsmom: then Complications…
Gin Akasarahsmom: Then Invitations
Library_Rio: AusXIP Bard’s Corner http://ausxip.com/fanfic.php
Del Robertson: Ohhh. I remember those.
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. yes… from a lifetime ago
Ceridwyn2: thank you
Gin Akasarahsmom: thanks for remembering though Del
AlexReading: how many years was that, Gin?
Gin Akasarahsmom: warning you now.. they are TOTALLY full of errors
Gin Akasarahsmom: about 13 I think
Gin Akasarahsmom: 12…13… something like that…
Gin Akasarahsmom: oh.. wait.. maybe 15!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: omg
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL
Del Robertson: It’s hard to believe Xena is that old.
Ceridwyn2: 1991, was it?
Gin Akasarahsmom: to hell with Xena… I can’t believe I’M that old!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL
alannasky: i have to ask the question…how did u take xena and gabrielle with the whole debt and hope saga…?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xena is timeless…
Gin Akasarahsmom: me personally? In my stories.. or what did I think of it in the series
alannasky: Like what was ur reaction to them and their decisions and the aftermath of everything?
Gin Akasarahsmom: in the stories I ignored it…
alannasky: think of the series
Gin Akasarahsmom: I thought it was resolved too quickly
Del Robertson: i liked that better than the idea-arc
Gin Akasarahsmom: and glossed over
Del Robertson: sorry. India-arc
Ceridwyn2: The Rift – yes resolved quickly in that Bitter Suite musical eo
AlexReading: I think in general – in fanfic, it never existed.
Gin Akasarahsmom: for example… when they went to Dahok’s temple in Bitter Suite.. Gabrielle said "This is where it started…" But I’ve been told that in some of the overseas versions she says "This is where Dahok raped me." which is actually what happened
Del Robertson: And there were never any ramifications for kidnapping an Amazon Queen?
Gin Akasarahsmom: They woudn’t have been able to do anything.. because Gabrielle would have stood up for Xena
Del Robertson: I mean, Xena rode in, broke the regent’s arm, kidnapped the Queen — and the amazons should just forget that?
alannasky: maybe resolve a bit but not completely…plus when later hope shows up again
alannasky: true del
Gin Akasarahsmom: they won’t forget… but they can’t do anything about it
Gin Akasarahsmom: Missy deals with that
Gin Akasarahsmom: in her stories
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xena is on VERY hostile ground for a long time after that point in the story
alannasky: true with that gin and the whole rape thing
Gin Akasarahsmom: wow… 7 minutes left
alannasky: yeah…2 hours would have been great with this
Ceridwyn2: Gin, I agree with the not forgetting, but remembering who their queen’s champion is, and the fact that Xena has beaten them many times, it would take one hell of a strong Amazon or God to put XWP down for good
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL.. time does fly.
AlexReading: @Gin, this is the last panel for the rm? keep on talking.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes..
Ceridwyn2: And then they would have to deal with Gabrielle and pissed off Gabrielle is something to behold
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl… that is true Alex… they may want us to move to room 1 though… we’ll see
ponyis1: I know that they were the heroes of the series but sometimes I think they were made out to be too perfect.
Ceridwyn2: Then there’s Lao Ma. Sigh
Del Robertson: @ponyis1: true.
AlexReading: WH is in rm1. so no move there.
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol.. Lao Ma was an annoyance
Gin Akasarahsmom: we’ll see
ponyis1: Seems no one could survive for five minutes without Xena saving them
Gin Akasarahsmom: anyway… they were quite good at what they did
Del Robertson: Lao Ma did help change Xena from punk to warrior
alannasky: i just never swallow completely the whole forginess
AlexReading: She did have many skills. lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: but they had to be.. or they’d have been killed in the first episode and the show would be over
Del Robertson: There’s a difference between being a hero and being "too" perfect
Gin Akasarahsmom: true… I think that Xena was supposed to be ‘flawed’ at the beginning… but as soon as she turned into a hero they didn’t want her that way anymore
Gin Akasarahsmom: which is odd.. because flawed heros are the best
Del Robertson: I think she was still flawed throughout the series. But, Gabrielle would forgive her anything
alannasky: true gin
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… gabrielle was TOO forgiving at times
shesgottaread: thanks for a great panel, everyone
Gin Akasarahsmom: wow… yep.. that’s our time.
alannasky: yup yup
Gin Akasarahsmom: Great Chat everyone!
alannasky: good times
Gin Akasarahsmom: nice walk down memory lane
AlexReading: thank you all. great panel. and happy reading.
alannasky: yes it was
wolvie_dk: Indeed. This really should happen more often
Del Robertson: Gonna go watch old eps and count the numberof times Xena calls out ‘Gabrielle’
Gin Akasarahsmom: I can’t be online all day more than once a year… my family will kill me LOL
quietheartedfsc: if everyone will move to room 1 for the wrap up
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep..
ponyis1: That was great. would have like more time.