Gin Akasarahsmom: Welcome to Day Two of Femslashcon 2012
beachbum3668: Hi gun!
beachbum3668: Just finished Silver and sapphires…great read1
brithna: amen to that
jazwriter: very cool Gun
quietheartedfsc: good lord, ya’ll have tipped my monitor to one side…there’s twice as many in here as the other rooms…
redheadgrrl1960: oh – thank you so much
Gin Akasarahsmom: Panelists please change your font to red…
quietheartedfsc: hey, Gun…so good to see you here
jazwriter: oh, is that chilly, I see??
chilly-flame: hi everyone. it’s nice to be here! yes, it’s me jaz!
Gin Akasarahsmom: if you have a question raise your hand so it won’t get lost in the shuffle of chat.. yeah?
Gin Akasarahsmom: There are many many great writers here… and I bow to the masters…
Gin Akasarahsmom: so lets get on with it eh?
Gin Akasarahsmom: WELCOME TO THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA PANEL
Ravenfairy11: Gin you are a master!
quietheartedfsc: please raise your hands if you have questions…large group in here
Gin Akasarahsmom: panelist.. should introduce themselves… like they need introductions
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I second Ravenfairy11 on that one
beachbum3668: I’m BeachBum
beachbum3668: And Gin is in a class by herself
chilly-flame: Chilly-flame, here.
Gin Akasarahsmom: pfft
Ravenfairy11: Fangirl Squee!
beachbum3668: There she goes again…
Gin Akasarahsmom: hello to everyone just joining us..
raiderl_1: Hey guys! won’t be staying long, we have guests for lunch
quietheartedfsc: quiethearted, but covering something else as the same time.
brithna: hi raider
Gin Akasarahsmom: awww… sorry raider
redheadgrrl1960: I’m sort of a panellist – unofficially official
redheadgrrl1960: Gun Brooke!
brithna: hi unofficial panellist..lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe… Hiya Gun *bows to the master of masters*
Ravenfairy11: Gun woohoo
Gin Akasarahsmom: so.. does anyone have any questions for the panelists… before this degenerates into a free for all
jazwriter: oops! what did I miss?!
Gin Akasarahsmom: EVERYTHING!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: Meryl and Anne were here
Gin Akasarahsmom: it was awesome!
Gin Akasarahsmom: 😛
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
brithna: dont do that to my heart please
Ravenfairy11: damn i hate when Gin does that lol
Gin Akasarahsmom: sigh.. only in my head
quietheartedfsc: today, I’d believe anything…
jazwriter: did they mention how they love our stories?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol teasing the fangirls is not something you should do, epsecially today.
Gin Akasarahsmom: anyway…. Questions? BetweenLove… you have one?
beachbum3668: First of all, I’d like to thank Gun for writing DWP. Now all the rabid Voyager fans who accused me of treason will have somebody else to send nastygrams to, LOL
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe… it’s nice to have a scapegoat eh BB?
Ravenfairy11: Treason they wouldn’t dare.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: yes, ma’am I do. To all you lovely panelists who moonlight as some of my favortie authors, do any of you have projects in the works?
beachbum3668: a FELLOW scapegoat thank you very much
jazwriter: well, BB, it’s your fault I left VOyager fic and turned to DWP
redheadgrrl1960: LOL, Beach! Actually – I had some fun emails of a kind nature when I did the cross over and placed Miranda and Andy in the future with Janeway and SEven.
Gin Akasarahsmom: ohhh… projects in the works… BB? Gun?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Chilly?
beachbum3668: I’m just trying to finish the pending chapter updates for JIGSAW and Decisions and Destiny
BetweenLove_n_Hate: well future chapters of JIGSAW would be epic.
chilly-flame: Alas, mine projects are with a couple of other ladies… I think I ran out of stories to tell with Andy and Miranda!
chilly-flame: I counted my catalogue one day recently and it was something like 35!
redheadgrrl1960: I’m actually plotting an "homage" story to Colleen McCullough (sp?) story "Tim" – Mirandy style. It’s so hard though, so I need to be very careful.
Ravenfairy11: we still love you chilly
jazwriter: Punky and I are collaborating on a Melenacious prompt for DWP
BetweenLove_n_Hate: that’s such a sad thing to hear. hope one day that muse come back, Chilly.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xraex21…. is next…
brithna: I’m very excited to read that story G…very excited
xraex21: The Devil Wears Prada breaks the mold when it comes to the number of fics written for a movie…what is it about them that makes their story so compelling to tell?
beachbum3668: You have a separate folder all your own in my "favorites section" of my hard drive, chilly
BetweenLove_n_Hate: but yes, those stories are excellent to re-read over and over.
chilly-flame: what a huge compliment beachbum!
redheadgrrl1960: I have reread chilly’s stories at least twice, some of them more than that.
beachbum3668: Me too.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol me too.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Xraex.. I think it’s because the ‘type’ is so familiar… older/younger, teacher/student…
Gin Akasarahsmom: that sort of story has been around forever and captures a lot of people’s hearts… who hasn’t had a crush on a teacher… boss.. etc
beachbum3668: I think the story is so compelling because of a couple of things. First of all, the characters as portrayed by Meryl and Anne were breath-taking. and secondly, the scene in which the story is set: New York, Fashion, high society…there’s tons of things to write about
chilly-flame: I think it’s because despite the familiarity with the roles, miranda is someone really unique in film. she is older, she has power, she has elegance–she is large and in charge, but she does reveal true vulnerability to one person. And that vulnerability changes the game.
pantone462: Hi, everyone!
Gin Akasarahsmom: welcome Pantone
Ravenfairy11: hey pantone
jazwriter: hello Pantone
pantone462: Hi, all! Chilly!!!
beachbum3668: We can thank Meryl personally for that glimpse of vulnerability
beachbum3668: that was all her
chilly-flame: so fun to see you here
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… she’s awesome that way…
redheadgrrl1960: Chilly, you really nailed it with that explanation. I totally agree.
Gin Akasarahsmom: knowing the characters she plays
redheadgrrl1960: hi pantone!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Did anyone else feel gipped that she didn’t win for DWP? and die laughing at the skit with Anne and Emily?
pantone462: Yay, lots of familiar names, but I’ll shut up now and read what I missed
beachbum3668: I always feel gypped t
xraex21: that skit was perfect
chilly-flame: i think the material was too light. i’m just grateful it got meryl back in the game
chilly-flame: because without that, so many other things wouldn’t have happened for her. i really believe that.
beachbum3668: I always feel gypped when Meryl doesn’t win. I fully support Sandra Bullock’s idea.
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes.. I think she should have won every award she was nominated for
chilly-flame: who won that year?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: What is Sandra Bullock’s idea?
redheadgrrl1960: It is always harder for comedies to gain recognition, which is strange, since good comedy is among the hardest thing there is to do well.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Meryl should automatically get the award.. then the second person gets an award too… right?
beachbum3668: Sandra says that whenever Meryp is nominated she automatically wins for Best Actress and then they let the rest of the field fight it out for 2nd place
Gin Akasarahsmom: right
beachbum3668: I think its the perfect solution
xraex21: was this idea before or after she kissed her
Ravenfairy11: Helen Mirren won for The Queen by the way.
beachbum3668: Now don’t get me started on how I felt when she lost out for Julie and Julia!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: LOl….ah, well yes I kind of like that idea as well.
beachbum3668: BEFORE xraex
chilly-flame: thanks raven
xraex21: WELL THERE YOU GO. she’s a fellow fangirl living the dream
beachbum3668: ican ionly imagein what she’d offer Meryl AFTER that kiss
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Have they ever been in a movie together? Lol they should be now.
Alkmaion: back again * sigh*
Gin Akasarahsmom: before.. after…. Meryl can have anything she wants
Gin Akasarahsmom: so… anyway… DWP…
sinadino77: cheesecubes anyone?
Ravenfairy11: no suprisingly she hasn’t been in a movie with a lot of great actresses.
redheadgrrl1960: As for Annie Hathaway – I’ve played the trailer to Les Mis so many times, Elon thinks my new computer is broken.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL
beachbum3668: For what its worth, DWP was Meryl’s highest grossing film (to that date) and gave her the record for most Oscar nominations
beachbum3668: and chilly is right: it brought her right back into the spotlight,
BetweenLove_n_Hate: did it? Then Mamma Mia broke that right?
Gin Akasarahsmom: Who will go see the next one… after whatshername writes the sequel and they make it into a movie?
redheadgrrl1960: Meryl is sort a Hollywood mold-breaker, being her age, and lining up so many box office hits.
beachbum3668: Correct, Mamma Mia broke that record for her
chilly-flame: i have to say that i am not interested in a sequel. i feel like we’ve all written the sequel, and it will never measure up.
Ravenfairy11: I so want to watch the sequel .but it has a lot to live up to.
Gin Akasarahsmom: true…
redheadgrrl1960: Agree with chilly
pantone462: Nope, no sequel for me either
beachbum3668: right on chilly! Too bad they aren’t consulting any of us for the storyboards1
chilly-flame: but, eh. meryl will do it, and if they can get anne into it, maybe. as long as they adapt the book the way they did the first. because i could NOT read the book.
sinadino77: that sequel is bound to be a disappointment
jazwriter: I agree with chilly–so unless they are hiring some of our great writers from DWP fanfic, forget it
Gin Akasarahsmom: I have never read the book
redheadgrrl1960: I havent read the book either.
pantone462: Oh m< god the book was atrocious
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I tried reading it, I couldn’t get through it.
chilly-flame: i found the first book’s andy sooooo annoying that i didn’t finish.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL
sinadino77: the german translation was quite boring…
shesgottaread: I only read maybe 6 pgs of the book and had to toss it
brithna: im not interested in a sequel either. the book and movie is already so far apart..if they do the second…it will just be worse..and like chilly said…we’ve all already written the second
beachbum3668: I went back and re-read it after I saw the movie and it was a huge disappointment. the film characters were SO much better
Gin Akasarahsmom: that was what I was told Chilly.. so I never bothered
redheadgrrl1960: I agree Brithna!
chilly-flame: don’t waste your time. crap source material that was massaged into something really good on screen.
sinadino77: especially the like sereies…
brithna: as someone just said i read a few pages and tossed it into the corner
pantone462: I applaud the director and Meryl and anyone else for seeing the possibilities for a good movie in such a horrible book material
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… thank you Sina
Ravenfairy11: right Sina
beachbum3668: The screenwriter deserved an Oscar for the job she did
brithna: amen to that…talk about a lot to work with
shesgottaread: totes agree, Beach
jazwriter: hi raider
brithna: or a lot to turn into something good..lol
beachbum3668: Can i ask a question?
Gin Akasarahsmom: sure
beachbum3668: Is that allowed?
Gin Akasarahsmom: yepper
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’ll allow it
Gin Akasarahsmom: 😛
beachbum3668: I’d be interested on what everybody thinks is the reason the film was so good: was it the casting or the wcreenplahy? Would DWP have been as good with a different cast?
Gin Akasarahsmom: casting…
Gin Akasarahsmom: it would have sucked without Meryl
Gin Akasarahsmom: or Anne
brithna: id say casting…on-screen chem between them
Gin Akasarahsmom: or Emily for that matter
chilly-flame: agree. anne was lovely and exactly right for andy, but miranda needed meryl.
beachbum3668: Or Stanley
sinadino77: gotta love em
beachbum3668: tucci was gold as Nigel
Gin Akasarahsmom: and Stanlly Tucci was brilliant as Nigel
redheadgrrl1960: Casting – first Meryl, she carried the movie, and then the dynamic between the four people (M, A, E and N)
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I think it had to do with both. It had the perfect balance of both so it was as good as it was. There was good writing and even better chemistry between the cast. Without that combination it wouldn’t have been as good
shesgottaread: Stanley doesn’t get enough love
Ravenfairy11: Love Stanley
Gin Akasarahsmom: I adore Stanley Tucci
Gin Akasarahsmom: He’s great in anything he does
sinadino77: didn’t he say in an interview that his wife was worried as how comfortable he seemed to be in the "gay role"?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I squee everytime I see Stanley Tucci in a movie.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol even in the Hunger Games
beachbum3668: I fell in love with him when he played the bad guy in Murder One
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep.. he was good in Hunger Games
beachbum3668: He still had hair back then
Ravenfairy11: I think it’s kinda cute how they are all connected in some way now, what with Stanley engaged to EMily’s older sister, Anne and Meryl were at Emily’s wedding. so cute
brithna: and to know he hardly had time to ‘prepare’ for nigel….fab job
Gin Akasarahsmom: I loved the chemistry he and Meryl had in Julie/Julia
beachbum3668: they all became close friends on DWP. that shows how much chemistry there really was
sinadino77: that movie with kathleen turner and dennis quaid (blues something…) where he played that….unsucessful robbefr…. "Muerte" or something like that…
Gin Akasarahsmom: never seen that one
beachbum3668: Uncercover Blues
sinadino77: poor Muerte
redheadgrrl1960: And he played super creepy child killer in a movie recently…forget the title…
beachbum3668: love it love it love it!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Lovely Bones
beachbum3668: Lets face it, everybody in DWP has acting chops
Gin Akasarahsmom: that was a plus for the movie for sure
Alkmaion: DWP kinda was a serious Zoolander for me *g*
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Yes they do. I wish Emily was in more though.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Emily is a tough character to ‘get’
redheadgrrl1960: Would have loved to see more of Serena/Emily in the movie.
beachbum3668: I remember that the director even thought Giselle Bundchen did a great job with her part
Gin Akasarahsmom: I find writing her very difficult
BetweenLove_n_Hate: You do? She was a great addition to the Like series!
Gin Akasarahsmom: Are there any characters you find difficult writing?
redheadgrrl1960: Its very easy to fall into the trap of making Emily into a british caricature somehow
beachbum3668: I find her dialog to be difficult. Part of me wants her to be fully ‘americanized’ in her voice and another wants her to still be Brazilian
Gin Akasarahsmom: thanks Between.. I’m glad you liked it
sinadino77: I hand my muse some cheese cubes and then she hels me with writing em
BetweenLove_n_Hate: oh no, I LOVED it. BIG difference.
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL…
Gin Akasarahsmom: BB… you want emily to be Brazilian?
quietheartedfsc: Emily is hardest for me. She’s either on or she’s off…her voice is hardest.
beachbum3668: No, I was talking about Serena
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl.. ah
jazwriter: I think she meant Serena, QH
chilly-flame: i never did well with stephen. and emily is a challenge because she is so sharp and brilliantly funny.
sinadino77: Irv… I have trouble writing Irv…. because I dislike him so much that I don’t want to get too close to him….
beachbum3668: Its hard to get the correct degree of snarkiness into Emily but not go overboard
Gin Akasarahsmom: It was easier for me to write Emily after I went to London and met XV… hearing the London accents helped…
jazwriter: I have trouble with Lily
redheadgrrl1960: Last time I wrote Stephen I had Andrea through a glass paperweight orb at him and knock him out cold.
beachbum3668: LOL…I just basically ignore Lily
pantone462: Emily… I love Emily. I don’t think I ever wrote Stephan…
Gin Akasarahsmom: and I asked her hundreds of questions… "What would an English person say when…"
beachbum3668: I figure when she told Andy to kiss off she lost her right to be included
jazwriter: Doug seems affable, but it’s haarder to figure Lily out…particularly since they were friends for so long
shesgottaread: and why not, Beach. She’s only got a couple of lines, and aren’t we kind of cutting off possibilities by forcing GB’s heritage on Serena?
Gin Akasarahsmom: nice Gun… I liked that one
quietheartedfsc: XV gave me a list of appropriate Britishisms for Emily’s region of London long ago…it’s helped greatly
shesgottaread: Needs to be more Lily in DWP fic.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I always make Serena Brazilian…
beachbum3668: I disagree
beachbum3668: lily is ancillary and can easily be ignored
beachbum3668: And I like Serena Brazilian
beachbum3668: whether or not it’s forcing Gb’s heritage on her
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I like stories that have Lily but others that don’t. Though i adore Doug.
sinadino77: you can’t say something like that when I’m around….especially when I’m drinking something close to the keyboard
beachbum3668: Yep, dougie’s my go-to guy
redheadgrrl1960: I read a story recently that described Stephen as quite reasonable… might be Writtensword’s "White Queen falls" …
jazwriter: but BB, they are Ady’s closest friends and support system in NY, so when she and Nate break up, I feel like they have to be dealt with in some way
Gin Akasarahsmom: *shrug*… I didn’t say I like Serena’S Brazilian…. get your mind out of the gutter
beachbum3668: But look at nhow Lily treated Andy at the gallery oopening
BetweenLove_n_Hate: true, but friends fight all the time.
beachbum3668: lily totally took Nate’s side
sinadino77: I live there… I can’t get it out
shesgottaread: Friends have spats, and Lily’s her oldest friend.
BetweenLove_n_Hate: and even though I dispise how she picked Nate over Andy she didn’t agree with what her friend was doing adn spoke up about it.
Gin Akasarahsmom: According to the movie Stephen was NOT reasonable… he was an idiot who complained about having to wait for Miranda, who was WORKING… that’s not supportive or reasonable at all
brithna: Red–it was white queen falls…i enjoyed that new look at Stephen
beachbum3668: Let’s face it folks…we NEED Stephen and Irv to bash
Gin Akasarahsmom: it was the attitude Andy’s friends had toward her job that always got me
beachbum3668: Voyager has Palnk-boy….we’ve got Stephen and Irv
shesgottaread: and Christian
redheadgrrl1960: I did too Brithna – that’s the fun part of fan fic – we can choose to write the characters – especially the side characters – a bit OOC from the movie -verse…and explore.
jazwriter: yes, I love bashing Christian
Gin Akasarahsmom: they were like… Quit.. quit.. quit… and it was her JOB!… she had a hard enough time getting that one…
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I actually would love to see a story where Christian is a nice guy.
brithna: ive read one recently
Gin Akasarahsmom: I think I redeemed Christan somewhat in my stories
BetweenLove_n_Hate: you did.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Nate too for that matter
beachbum3668: He’s so deliciously slimey…just made to be a sleazeball
Ravenfairy11: Christian can suck it
brithna: can’t remember the name…well he wasn’t NICE but he was a okay guy in the end
jazwriter: mmm, don’t know that I ever wrote a lovable Christian
BetweenLove_n_Hate: And I’d like to see him be a good guy because I think he’d make a good friend to Andy. Nothing more. But there was a story where he was basically her wing man.
beachbum3668: I haven’t
brithna: i dont think i could…maybe…don’t know
Gin Akasarahsmom: not lovable… but somewhat redeemed in the end
BetweenLove_n_Hate: and I loved it
brithna: yes that would be good
jazwriter: I can’t redeem Nateeither–he’s too immature
redheadgrrl1960: I really like the actor that played Christian – so, taken that into consideration, I might be able to write him more amicable.
pantone462: I didn’t write Christian either. Or Nate. Now that I think about it my stories a more or less two people. Max.
beachbum3668: not to mention hairy
BetweenLove_n_Hate: someone did. Lol when she got kicked out of her apartment that she shared with Nate she moved in with him and they just got along really well and it was nice.
brithna: that’s my issue with nate as well…immature
Ravenfairy11: immature and hairy
Gin Akasarahsmom: I grew him up a bit in mine
Gin Akasarahsmom: he turned out to be okay
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
BetweenLove_n_Hate: LOVED him in yours
BetweenLove_n_Hate: even though he did kiss before thinking
jazwriter: I have more faith in Lily than in Nate for maturing
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… well… wouldn’t you??
BetweenLove_n_Hate: he really ended up being the stand up guy she always thought of him as
redheadgrrl1960: When they all complained how much Andy had to work, and the calls she had to take – they were being biased – they obviously didnt consider that at an entry level at any job, you do the dog-years.
Gin Akasarahsmom: that always killed me Gun… it’s a terrible attitude
redheadgrrl1960: it sure is
jazwriter: they worked 9-5 jobs and couldn’t understand
shesgottaread: but their entry-level jobs didn’t involve answering calls 12-24hrs a day
Gin Akasarahsmom: like he didn’t work all hours at his chef jobs
beachbum3668: Frankly, I gave up on Nate with his first crack when Andy got the job "A Fashion magazine?? Was it a phone interview?"
jazwriter: but Nate was upset that Andy wasn’t available when he was
redheadgrrl1960: I also felt that the ending of the movie was such a cop out and totally against Andy’s character. Two reasons, the whole tossing the phone with a broad smile…and then taking the FULL blame when meeting up with Nate… arghhhhh…
Gin Akasarahsmom: right… like a baby Jazzy
pantone462: I find twins awfully difficult to write
BetweenLove_n_Hate: the only person I thought that could possibly understand Andy’s job was Lily and she’s the loudest objector. Like how many hours would she have to put in overtime to fix up her gallary?
beachbum3668: The twins are easy…just write a 40 year old and put it in an 11 year old’s body
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’m not sure she was to blame…. she just acknowledged that she had changed.. like Nate said she had… she didn’t say it was a bad change..
Gin Akasarahsmom: the twins are fairly easy for me… since I have an 11 year old
jazwriter: I doubt she owned the gallery, though, Between
redheadgrrl1960: She did apologize for that change though, Gin.
pantone462: It’s just… they feel either too old or too young when I try
shesgottaread: well, what if Andy had been somewhat dismissive of her "art-thing"? I think that could have sparked some of the "you thought …… is haute coutore"
chilly-flame: i like to write the twins, pantone, but I find the age a challenge. how to not make them too smart or too advanced for their age. unfair advantage, gin!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: true, but she’d be working long hours there for showings even if she didn’t.
Gin Akasarahsmom: eh… I guess… but she stayed in New York.. and didn’t go to Boston with him
jazwriter: I have a 12 year old–so not so hard for me to write the twins
beachbum3668: I’ve never had a problem with the twins
pantone462: I’ll have to obseve some friends’ kids a bit
Gin Akasarahsmom: they can be slightly more mature than most for their age…
Gin Akasarahsmom: they are Miranda’s daughters after all
redheadgrrl1960: Pantone – I second that. Kids are hard to write. I find it easy to fall into the trap of making them sound …oh god what’s that word – wise for their years… precau-something. *scratching head*
beachbum3668: Of course I don’t have kids of my own and i don’t know how well I’ve managed it, but nobody seems to be objecting
sinadino77: as long aws you aren’t the assistant delivering the book you don’t have trouble with the twins….
Gin Akasarahsmom: precocious
beachbum3668: But they ARE precocious
redheadgrrl1960: thank you Gin
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes.. they are
jazwriter: and they seem very intelligent
Gin Akasarahsmom: ad I said.. Miranda’s children
beachbum3668: They’re every bit the brats they’re made out to be…just with a heart of gold once you dig deep enough
jazwriter: and wily
pantone462: Oh well I just pretend they are at their father’s
redheadgrrl1960: I dunno – I feel transported to an American sitcome from the seventies sometimes when I write them.
Gin Akasarahsmom: Wee Demons
jazwriter: lol pantone!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Speking of the twins: Do you like stories that do not invovle the twins? Or would you rather see them involved in the story and in the growing relationship between Miranda and Andy?
Gin Akasarahsmom: I always like them involved… it’s their life too
beachbum3668: I want to see them involved. They mean the world to Miranda and would be a part of any decisions she made about Andy
shesgottaread: like longer stories, so feel that needs to have the twins
jazwriter: I prefer to write them older, though–lol
pantone462: Between, it depends on story for me
chilly-flame: lol those kids do spend a lot of time at sleepovers and at dads!
shesgottaread: although, have read good, long stories that didn’t really include them, focusing on Andy/Miranda
redheadgrrl1960: I write them into longer stories as well. I am fortunate to have granddaughters that age…
pantone462: If it’s about beginning the relationship, nah
chilly-flame: i think i split it. they’re very involved in some, central in a few, and totally absent in others.
Gin Akasarahsmom: they are at an age where that would be true chilly… Sarah is gone quite often playing at other people’s houses…
pantone462: chilly, right. Isn’t that the truth
Gin Akasarahsmom: with the divorce they would be at their father’s for some things…
beachbum3668: The twins can be a great tool: Miranda can be blinded by her work and the twins tend to provide a reality-check for her
chilly-flame: yep. but i always knew when i had to "go there" those kids were going to be outta the house!
shesgottaread: "Ms. Priestly, we’d like to know why your daughters have spent over 100 nights this year at sleepovers" asked the social worker
redheadgrrl1960: They call her on things to, with such honesty…it is a way to make MIranda stop and think.
chilly-flame: like, the dining room table must be available for sex. no kids allowed.
jazwriter: don’t bore me with your questions
beachbum3668: yep: reality check
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes… from the mouths of babes..
pantone462: if you put all the fanfic and count the weekends at their dad’s, they’ve spent there some 75 years already
BetweenLove_n_Hate: (nods) I personally enjoy stories that invovle them because they are so intregal to Miranda’s character in a way.
beachbum3668: too true, LOL
redheadgrrl1960: pantone – LOL
Gin Akasarahsmom: I like that they spend time with their father though… so many divorced kids don’t get to do that
brithna: im cracking up…lol
brithna: that is so true
Gin Akasarahsmom: it shows that he is a good dad
beachbum3668: They’re also convenient as a means to re-introduce Andy and Miranda
Ravenfairy11: yes BB
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes
Ravenfairy11: i think it helps tie Andy to Miranda more, because they are her only real weakness per say
BetweenLove_n_Hate: Lol YES! I love stories that use them as the means to get Mirandy back together after a long time.
Gin Akasarahsmom: when they tell their mom point blank… "You date her.. or I will!"
beachbum3668: When stuck or abandoned by your muse have Andy run into the twins in the Park
BetweenLove_n_Hate: LOL well that certianly works, Gin.
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
Gin Akasarahsmom: that’s what Cassidy did in Into the Fire
BetweenLove_n_Hate: my idea for IDF was for Roy to actually run into Andy on the way to work.
Gin Akasarahsmom: actually run into her… like.. with the car?
redheadgrrl1960: Then there is the DOG. I find it amuzing when Patricia is involved. I’m such a doglover, it’s almost embarrassing.
beachbum3668: jazzy had Caroline do it in the Wrong Choice
wolvie_dk: also they can help illustrate Miranda’s growth as a person
wolvie_dk: i’m back btw
pantone462: lol, my first thought as well Gin
beachbum3668: I LOVE Patricia
jazwriter: there are so many DWP stories now that it is challenge to find a way to get them to cross paths…the kids give more possibilities
BetweenLove_n_Hate: lol yeah….
Ravenfairy11: lol oh broken leg emily style
Gin Akasarahsmom: hehehe
beachbum3668: And I really love the idea of miranda being a dog lover
jazwriter: thaat was QH, BB
damelola: (hey all) I love when Patricia gets a cameo in a story
beachbum3668: all High fashion with a st bernard drooling on her Jimmy Choos
redheadgrrl1960: and for her not to have a Paris Hilton dog – but a huge slobbery ST B.
beachbum3668: OOPS *blushing furiously*
Gin Akasarahsmom: Ah… It killed me to have to kill off Patricia in Lucky Girls
beachbum3668: Mea cupla QH!!!
Gin Akasarahsmom: but too much time had passed
redheadgrrl1960: But Taymor is so sweet
beachbum3668: Well, they had Taymor!
Gin Akasarahsmom: LOL… yeah… I had to make up for it with Taymor
sinadino77: *pets Tay*
jazwriter: she’s not here, BB — ssshhhhh
quietheartedfsc: sokay, BB…jazz and are in interchangablb
pantone462: Hey damelola!!!
chilly-flame: hey lola!
Ravenfairy11: Fangirl squee
redheadgrrl1960: hello damelola!
jazwriter: I don’t mind taking credit for your stories QH–I think more people have read them than mine….lol!
pantone462: me squeeing as well
Ravenfairy11: shut the front door jazzy your stories are awesome too
quietheartedfsc: since you beta them all….they’re as much yours as mine anyway, jazzy
BetweenLove_n_Hate: So, can I ask a question to everyone (again)?
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep
jazwriter: lol Raven
Gin Akasarahsmom: go ahead
beachbum3668: I hereby formally apologize and promise to slit my writst as soon as the next panel is finished
redheadgrrl1960: Question! Do you remember which story or author that got you hooked on DWP fan fic?
beachbum3668: That’s easy…Truth and Measure
pantone462: Oh jeez that was ages ago
Gin Akasarahsmom: Yepper… ‘tas Chilly_Flame
shesgottaread: Chilly’s Small Favors
BetweenLove_n_Hate: With all the fanfics out there for this couple, one: which are your favorite (recs?) and two: which sites do you prefer to read/post them on?
quietheartedfsc: ya can’t do that BB…you have to finish D and D…lol
pantone462: probably chilly
Gin Akasarahsmom: ’twas
chilly-flame: When in Doubt, Wear Red
jazwriter: see, BB–now you’re not thinking I’m such a great writer since you were actually thinking of QH’s stories1
Gin Akasarahsmom: Small Favors
damelola: I do! It was chilly’s for a porn battle – ‘Score’, is that the name? Miranda draws on Andy’s back with a red fountain pen
damelola: BOOM, I was in.
pantone462: or telanu
quietheartedfsc: for me it was Gin and Like Andrea….I followed her over from FOL.
chilly-flame: omg lola
beachbum3668: *banging head on desk at my stupidity*
chilly-flame: i had no idea!
damelola: have I not told you that before chilly?
damelola: My bad!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: First story I read was Coffee and Brownies series by Kosmos8
chilly-flame: if you did i forgot. that is cool!
wolvie_dk: small favors
chilly-flame: oh i love that one, between l and h
brithna: i can’t remember how i got started but T&M was probably the cement that set me firmly in place
beachbum3668: chilly, I read Truth and Measure on a rainy afternoon and by 10 pm had devoured your Small Favors series as well
Ravenfairy11: omg it’s been too long i can’t remember. But i’m guessing it was probably Chilly’s as well.
Gin Akasarahsmom: totally small favors… the kiss against the door in the conference room at the Mirror… Yum
redheadgrrl1960: For me it was WrittenSword and her stories – then onto Chilly’s and then Telanu.
chilly-flame: wow! i feel very honored@
Gin Akasarahsmom: wow… Five minutes left!
quietheartedfsc: small favors was the next I found and read…hook was totally set then
Gin Akasarahsmom: any last questions?
pantone462: there was my trio fantasticus for long time – chilly – telanu – chainofclovers
chilly-flame: there was a very small catalogue when i started. but i do remember being absolutely destroyed by the lily and the crown
chilly-flame: chainofclovers. i love her stuff so much.
damelola: I love that one two
damelola: I think Better Homes and Gardens is my all-time fave
pantone462: pure art
jazwriter: The story that lured me was Basic Black by Beach
Ravenfairy11: aww sadness. we should get 2 hours next year.
noneofdem: mine was chilly’s mercy, read everything else ever since. love everything from you guys too
pantone462: i melt when i read her words
brithna: love basic black…
shesgottaread: I think it was partly because you’d posted the first parts to it at P&P, saw the link at uberetc and followed to searching for more
brithna: yes two hours
michelle_2011: I like Basic Black too
chilly-flame: mercy, wow!
BetweenLove_n_Hate: who wrote Better Homes and Gardens?
beachbum3668: Thank you!
Gin Akasarahsmom: So… if you were trying to lure a person into this fandom.. what story would you recommend they read?
shesgottaread: Basic Black, *swoons*
Gin Akasarahsmom: I always rec Small Favors
redheadgrrl1960: absolutely two hours next time – there is much to discuss
chilly-flame: When in Doubt, Wear Red.
beachbum3668: Thanks SGR
brithna: who wrote when in doubt wear red??
chilly-flame: because it works so much good stuff in from the movie.
brithna: i want to read
brithna: or maybe i have
brithna: okay thank you
quietheartedfsc: It was Beach that pulled me to Voyager…*G*….so gin can share the blame now…
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol.. gee thanks
BetweenLove_n_Hate: I’d recommend Coffee and Brownies series, Small Favors, and Gin’s Like Series to get someone into the fandom
BetweenLove_n_Hate: it’s what got me.
chilly-flame: i also love reading politic_x stuff
Gin Akasarahsmom: awww
BetweenLove_n_Hate: oh and She’s Like a Prizefight
shesgottaread: Small Favors, TLGN’s When in Doubt, and the football story, Basic Black
Gin Akasarahsmom: Like would scare them off
Gin Akasarahsmom: too long
chilly-flame: gosh there is so much good stuff out there i could go on and on
redheadgrrl1960: As for the question where to publish stories – Im struggling some with LJ these days, but otherwise, that’s where I play…and also at ff.net and my own website.
Ravenfairy11: Favorite AU for Mirandy??
beachbum3668: Cerulean Dragon
redheadgrrl1960: Or favorite uber?
chilly-flame: lily and the crown. easy. but i did love politic’s most recent one. let me find the name
beachbum3668: hands down
jazwriter: thanks, BB!
sinadino77: that pirate story from, telanu
brithna: my fav au is dark horizon and vocalize
Gin Akasarahsmom: Gun’s.. is it called Dark Horizon?
Gin Akasarahsmom: yes
brithna: I’m reading V right now
shesgottaread: Chilly’s western on which I’m blanking the name, but also Lily & the crown
brithna: its like medication for me
noneofdem: losing miranda, the lily and the crown and handsome & pretty
redheadgrrl1960: yes it is Gin
damelola: Chilly’s Western, and the Lily and the Crown
redheadgrrl1960: thank you
Gin Akasarahsmom: that’s my favorite
chilly-flame: i have to admit, i have so much love for handsome and pretty. i just had a freaking ball writing that.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I like all the others listed too though..
sinadino77: and ther’s that unfinished western
sinadino77: gun’s ww2 story…
Ravenfairy11: SGR handsome and pretty
brithna: i love westerns so that was a treat to read..and read again and again lol
redheadgrrl1960: Lily and the Crown is wonderful – I laughed and cried with that one.
chilly-flame: "The Narcotic Night" by poltic x. read it if you haven’t.
shesgottaread: oh, yeah!! Losing Miranda, just added it back to my re-read list
brithna: yes please that is awesome
beachbum3668: It’s great
damelola: my gf once rambled to you in comments chilly, about how it was a total Dr Quinn shoutout… only it wasn’t
quietheartedfsc: DWP has always had a strong list of quality writers…it’s been blessed that way
sinadino77: that fairytale from writtensword
pantone462: oh yeah losing miranda is great
damelola: aw, thank you for the Losing Miranda love
redheadgrrl1960: politic x is fantastic
fsc_ralst: *cough* looks at watch
redheadgrrl1960: As for long hauls…Gin’s long series was a lifesaver when I needed escapism really badly.
Gin Akasarahsmom: okay… looks like.. our Time is Up
brithna: damn okay
jazwriter: Ever After, sina?
BetweenLove_n_Hate: who wrote losing Miranda?
shesgottaread: TY, Chilly! I hadn’t seen that story. Loves poliitc_x
raiderl_1: No! My guests just left!
Gin Akasarahsmom: Thank you so much for being here.. and the great discussion
beachbum3668: thanks to all the mods and committee for this weekend
brithna: bye yeal
redheadgrrl1960: thank you everybody!!!
sinadino77: yes, Ever after
noneofdem: bye, take care. i’ll read you guys later
BetweenLove_n_Hate: thank you for your time panelists it was a pleasure to speak with you
Ravenfairy11: See you around lj,ff.net, tumblr, facebook. and in my dreams
sinadino77: after reading that… I could even bear watching thatz movie again (tradition with my parents…each and every year around christmas….several times….)
pantone462: Bye all