fsc_ralst: Yes, welcome to the Criminal Minds panels… panellists, please sign in
fsc_ralst: Unfortunately, lysachan is experiencing computer problems and won’t be able to join us
Ceridwyn2: she needs a new computer
Ceridwyn2: I’m in Atlantic Canada
Alsike: Hi, I’m Alsike. I write, um, the Criminal Minds subfandom, which is Criminal Minds/X-Men fic. I think I get to call it a subfandom since I’m no longer the only person writing it.
Ceridwyn2: I will admit to probably only seeing a few eps of the most recent season.
Kaqlittle: I just read a really good Emma/Emily fic
fsc_ralst: So, what first got you interested in this fandom?
Ceridwyn2: Emily Prentiss
sunsetwriter: Emily Prentiss
Kaqlittle: i agree
mayIreadtoday: Alsike, are you nike_ravus?
Alsike: Yep, that’s me
Ceridwyn2: if ever there was a character to slash, it’s Emily
Gin Akasarahsmom: I’ve only just started watching the shows on A&E… but I like Emily… and JJ… and…
Meneldur: Emily. On should always slash Emily
Gin Akasarahsmom: yep.. and Garcia
Gin Akasarahsmom: I would like to see some Garcia/JJ fic
fsc_ralst: For those that saw the first season, did the femslash urge only strike with Emily’s arrival or was it there for you with Elle too?
sunsetwriter: For me, it started with Em
Gin Akasarahsmom: Elle kinda creeped me out..
sunsetwriter: Not a big Elle fan either
fsc_ralst: I never took to Elle either
Alsike: Never watched the first season. The fic picked up when Emily arrived, and I follow the fic.
fsc_ralst: Emily really did bring the gay
Ceridwyn2: I was watching one of the eps on Bravo Canada recently and there was one part where Spencer was going on and on, and Emily pokes him in the cheek and goes, "is he real?"
Gin Akasarahsmom: rofl
mayIreadtoday: Emily with her non-English speaking — so sexy.
Ceridwyn2: not an Elle fan, either. JJ & Garcia were fun to watch in S1
sunsetwriter: At one point, I was convinced they were going to have Emily come out as gay, then…
Alsike: It would clearly be an anticlimax
mayIreadtoday: Am I the other one who doesn’t see Emily/JJ at all?
mayIreadtoday: I might only one
Ceridwyn2: that and that voice. Emily. For god sake, gah
mayIreadtoday: I meant
sunsetwriter: JJ’s pregnancy brough the Em/JJ ship to a screeching halt for me
the_dhamphir: no, mayI, you’re not the only one.
Alsike: I was totally on board with the Emily/JJ until the baby debacle too
Gin Akasarahsmom: and I hate that guy she’s with… married to?
fsc_ralst: @may – season two and three I could see Emily/JJ easily but not so much lately
sunsetwriter: I wish they hadn’t written the pregnancy into the show
Gin Akasarahsmom: he mumbles
Ceridwyn2: I just figured it was a sperm donor, and ditched the guy.
Alsike: @ sunset – would you rather the Otalia method?
Gin Akasarahsmom: ewwww
mayIreadtoday: I have never seen Emily/JJ even before the pregnancy
Gin Akasarahsmom: gross… now I have "Frankshudders"
fsc_ralst: Will is a terrible character, and that’s not even my femslasher’s side talking
sunsetwriter: Sorry, not up on Otalia…?
Ceridwyn2: LOL. BTW, if any of you have been reading S3 of OVS, we have Shemar Moore as the new police chief for Springfield
Gin Akasarahsmom: oh…
Alsike: I meant the pre-Frank incident – They made the actress carry baskets and wear heavy coats to try and distract from the babybump.
sunsetwriter: I could go with the Olivia Benson method of hiding behind folders, etc
sunsetwriter: Yeah, like that!
Gin Akasarahsmom: bump? Natalia had a MOUNTAIN!
fsc_ralst: Producers really should just credit the audience with some intelligence, and just assume we’ll turn a blind eye to the baby bumps
sunsetwriter: Benson couldn’t really hide it either, but it was better than make her character pregnant
Ceridwyn2: LOL. True dat. So did HC’s Maca & Esther with their pregnancies that were written in
Gin Akasarahsmom: there was a really weird few episodes on Castle when they had Beckett kinda hiding behind tables, doors, folders, clothing… it was weird.. because she wasn’t pregnant! LOL
Alsike: In the end, I’m happy that they did write it in, because without it, I would have never started writing in the fandom.
mayIreadtoday: I watched The Cosby Show when I was a kid and never noticed that Phylicia Rashad was preganant. And she was a number of times.
fsc_ralst: The pregnancy, without Will, would have been tollerable, but adding him made no sense
sunsetwriter: Then something good DID come out of it
sunsetwriter: I just didn’t buy JJ being in love with Will. At all.
Gin Akasarahsmom: me either… no chemistry
Ceridwyn2: no, neither did I
mayIreadtoday: Yes, Alsike wrote her Vegas hooker fic.
fsc_ralst: No, she looked ready to dump and then ‘wham’ they’re together? Made no sense
Alsike: That was one thing.
Ceridwyn2: ralst, I emailed you the two HC fics with html markings added
fsc_ralst: okay, ta
sunsetwriter: Since he was the ONLY love interest JJ ever really had, so I guess he was the only choice
mayIreadtoday: I believe you have Emily refer to JJ as "repulsively heterosexual" in that fic
Alsike: It was a one night stand, and making it more than that was really submitting to middle class values
Alsike: i do
Ceridwyn2: yep. ONS
fsc_ralst: @Alsike yes
Gin Akasarahsmom: I think she actually DID break up with him right… then by the end of the episode they were back together?
fsc_ralst: And Emily didn’t look happy about it
Gin Akasarahsmom: I hate things like that… it’s just bad planning
Alsike: "repulsively heterosexual" was how I felt about the whole incident
Ceridwyn2: nope. Emily did not like it
Alsike: It really put a wrench in a lot of the fic at the time as well
fsc_ralst: Thankfully, they use Will sparingly, but still far too much for my liking
Alsike: because people were trying to deal with it, and it was really hard to read
mayIreadtoday: Alsike, and now you write awesome Emily Prentiss/Emma Frost
darandkerry_1: I liked the fic where people just pretended it never happaned.
sunsetwriter: Do you think he will have a bigger role, now that they are married?
Alsike: I wanted Emily to move up in the world.
fsc_ralst: @dar me too
Ceridwyn2: Mind you, Emily around JJ when she was pregnant, there was still chemistry
Alsike: Pretending it never happened was the best option.
fsc_ralst: God, I hope not suns
Alsike: But the ones where they placed the blame on Emily for it were not okay.
Kaqlittle: I haven’t read any of ur fics Alsike but I am planning on it.
Ceridwyn2: And with Prentiss gone again
mayIreadtoday: Emily is so perfect for crossovers because she’s traveled the world.
Gin Akasarahsmom: I hope not… he butts in on the BAU’s cases too often already in my opinion… he seems kinda like a jerk who can’t let his wife just do her job
fsc_ralst: Criminal Minds without Emily is not a good idea
Alsike: @ Kaqlittle – I hope you do! I like them, but of course, I’m biased.
Kaqlittle: I like the Emma/Emily crossover
Meneldur: Iworship at the Emma/Emily altar
Kaqlittle: yep just read those
sunsetwriter: Anyone know any scoop on her ‘replacement’? As if she could BE replaced
Meneldur: Then again, I worship Emma and like Emily, so it’s not surprising
fsc_ralst: Are there a lot of CM crossovers? Besides those already mentioned?
darandkerry_1: Replacement is Jean Tripplehorn (sp?)
mayIreadtoday: I like Emily/Ziva David (NCIS) and I want to see Emily/Diana Barrigan (White Collar)
Ceridwyn2: No idea who replacement might be. But seriously, that year that Emily & JJ out was just bad
Kaqlittle: is Emily leaving? I did not watch the latter part of the last season?
Meneldur: Emily/Ziva is awesoem
sunsetwriter: Where do I know her from?
Alsike: There was an awesome Fringe one with Emily/Olivia
fsc_ralst: Emily/Diana would be interesting, both daughters of diplomatic services types
sunsetwriter: I’m still marinating on Emily/Alex Cabot
mayIreadtoday: Yes! That’s why I want to see Emily/Diana especially when they’re young
Alsike: @ sunset – wrote that one
Ceridwyn2: hang on a bit, just going to poke my head over in social media for a minute or two
Alsike: filthy porn
fsc_ralst: @may yes, I can see that
Kaqlittle: Nice pairing
mayIreadtoday: sunsetwriter, did someone write Emily/Alex Cabot?
darandkerry_1: Oh..Oh..Oh… Paget Brewster is going to be on 2 L&O SUVs
Alsike: Mine’s here: http://nike-ravus.livejournal.com/17639.html#cutid1
Alsike: it’s a little nuts
fsc_ralst: Damn, but that will mean I’ll have to watch SVU again
sunsetwriter: What??? Emily on SVU?
Kaqlittle: really. that is awesome
sunsetwriter: Thanks alsike!
darandkerry_1: Not as Emily… I don’t think, anywy
mayIreadtoday: Oh that one.
Alsike: but she’s a spy
Alsike: it’s totally possible that she’s Emily in disguise
fsc_ralst: When AJ was on SVU she played a lesbian… lets hope for Paget
sunsetwriter: But, wouldn’t that be cool?
sunsetwriter: Emily Prentiss – lesbian spy
fsc_ralst: lol love it
mayIreadtoday: …kissed the girls and made them cry
sunsetwriter: But, usually the guest stars are the killers…
fsc_ralst: There could be a whole series of Emily, lesbian spy, travelling around the world and visiting all the different femslash fandoms
Alsike: Spy. She can totally be the killer.
sunsetwriter: Oh, ralst, you’re on to some there… something really big
mayIreadtoday: YES! to ralst’s idea
fsc_ralst: It would be a Virtual Emily Series, wth a difference
Alsike: It would be awesome.
Kaqlittle: I like the idea
mayIreadtoday: I prefer fics to "Virtual Seasons"
Alsike: I’m thinking a round robin sort of thing
sunsetwriter: And so it begins…
fsc_ralst: A fic, crossover, each sort of thing?
Alsike: yeah, make them one-shots so you get good results
darandkerry_1: Paget did an interview (kind of long, but worth listening) and she talked about Criminal Minds and her new ‘adventures’. Here’s the link: http://www.nerdist.com/2012/07/making-it-51-paget-brewster/
mayIreadtoday: racethewind did a short Emily/Myka Bering (Warehouse13) fic
fsc_ralst: Or we could have Emily Prentiss, lesbian matchmaker – have her go from fandom to fandom, getting the OTP of that pairing together
sunsetwriter: There’s also a great Emily/Stella? (from one of the CSIs) – anybody remember that one? I can’t remember who wrote it
fsc_ralst: Or mix and match
mayIreadtoday: Nay, Emily needs play herself
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Alsike: I think what Emily is good at is rescuing all the lonely girls from non OTP worlds
mayIreadtoday: Yes to Alsike!
sunsetwriter: Love em and leave em?
fsc_ralst: Clarice starling sort of person
mayIreadtoday: Cuddy from House, Ainsley Hayes from West Wing, etc.
Alsike: ainsley hayes
Alsike: I could see that one
mayIreadtoday: I adore Ainsley Hayes.
Alsike: me too
Alsike: This is where Emily’s mother is useful
darandkerry_1: I think I wrote an Emily/Sofia Curtis. Talk about 2 women who could save women everywere!
fsc_ralst: Any types of fandoms that you’d find it hard to insert Emily?
mayIreadtoday: Write it Alsike! *evil grin*
sunsetwriter: I still have to chuckle everytime I think about Sabrina Duncan being Em’s mom
fsc_ralst: Ah, Sofia, she’s the Emily of CSI
Gin Akasarahsmom: it’s Brilliant… because they look alike
Gin Akasarahsmom: lol
sunsetwriter: they really do
mayIreadtoday: darandkerry: What’s the link to your fic, please?
Alsike: Can we AU? Because you’re talking to the one who wrote Aladdin, 1984, SPN, and Barbie’s Mermadia crossovers
sunsetwriter: oh my..
fsc_ralst: crazy-fics? sure
mayIreadtoday: Actually, the actress didn’t work for me who played Emily’s mom
Alsike: I love crazy fics.
sunsetwriter: Why, mayI?
mayIreadtoday: I don’t think Emily would fit into Harry Potter or Buffy
fsc_ralst: Add in Charlie’s Angels for mommy dearest
Gin Akasarahsmom: Kate Jackson…
Gin Akasarahsmom: she was my favorite on Charlie’s Angels
Alsike: now I’m going to have to try to prove you wrong.
Gin Akasarahsmom: and I loved her in Scarecrow and Mrs. King
mayIreadtoday: She didn’t feel like the woman I pictured in Alsike’s fics.
darandkerry_1: Kate Jackson… *sigh* Mayl: I’ll see if I can find it.
sunsetwriter: Definitely my favorite angel
fsc_ralst: Emily finds out her mother has a secret double life with her girlfriend Kelly
Alsike: I ruin television for people. Sorry
mayIreadtoday: Before my time…
fsc_ralst: I loved Scarecrow and Mrs King
sunsetwriter: ralst, you’re on a roll!
Kaqlittle: I like that ralst
mayIreadtoday: Of course Emily in St. Trinian’s works wonderfully. There’s a few on AO3
fsc_ralst: There’s Emily/St T fics?
mayIreadtoday: Yes, hold on ralst, I’ll see if I can find them for you.
sunsetwriter: St. T?
Alsike: seriously? OMG?
fsc_ralst: St. Trinians
fsc_ralst: Lena Heady’s character?
sunsetwriter: Doesn’t help me…
Alsike: Go read all of these: http://archiveofourown.org/users/language_escapes/works?fandom_id=118309
mayIreadtoday: ralst: http://archiveofourown.org/series/13172
mayIreadtoday: Amen to reading language escapes work!
Alsike: How could I have missed those! Thanks MayI!
Gin Akasarahsmom: sigh… Lena Heady…. *drool*
mayIreadtoday: You’re welcome
darandkerry_1: Mayl: http://passion-perfect.livejournal.com/825358.html
Kaqlittle: I agree Gin
fsc_ralst: What pairing?
mayIreadtoday: darandkerry: Thanks
mayIreadtoday: ralst, what’s the q in reference to?
fsc_ralst: the links you posted
mayIreadtoday: No Emily pairing, just her in St. T’s
Alsike: but set in the Chosen & Defined verse? Excellent!
fsc_ralst: So Emily can pretty much be inserted anywhere. She’s like a Swiss army knife
mayIreadtoday: Different author, sorry Alsike
Alsike: still, I like intertextuality
mayIreadtoday: ralst, yes she is because she’s so awesome
fsc_ralst: So is the future for CM femslash in crossovers or is there life in the mother fandom too?
Alsike: (I would have found it already if it had been the same author. I read all of her St. T fics in like 24 hours.)
Meneldur: Emily just… fits
Alsike: Well, I’ve written exactly half a fic in the mother fandom. So not for me.
Meneldur: Although thanks to Alsike, I find it hard to get beyond Emma/Emily.
sunsetwriter: Will have to wait and see about Tripplehorn’s character, but it seems that Em’s taking the CM femslash with her
darandkerry_1: I think crossover, too
Meneldur: But she does have this great quality that she just works in practically any crossover
fsc_ralst: Poor JJ and Garcia
Alsike: JJ needs to be crossed over more too
mayIreadtoday: Absolutely this is not the panel of the Emily/JJ shippers
darandkerry_1: They’ll just have to comfort each other.
Gin Akasarahsmom: it’s easier to cross shows like Criminal Minds because of their mobility… they go anywhere
Alsike: Wycynic has a great backstory where JJ is a hunter, as in Supernatural
fsc_ralst: No, this is the ‘Emily Prentiss, Lesbian Spy’ panel, obviously *g*
Alsike: I see no problems with this.
mayIreadtoday: I’ve read one Emily/Garcia fic and it was interesting but didn’t fit my head canon.
sunsetwriter: It’s also ironic to me that I’ve never seen Garcia to be gay when the actress actually IS
darandkerry_1: I have to admit that I hung in there until the bitter end with Emily/JJ
Alsike: I totally just finished my Emily Prentiss lesbian spy in WW1 fic too, today.
fsc_ralst: Yeah, I like Garcia and her boys
mayIreadtoday: Is she gay or bi? And is that rumor or confirmed?
Gin Akasarahsmom: i would like to see some good Garcia/JJ fic
Meneldur: Alsike,on’t forget: and it was awesome
sunsetwriter: Me too, dar, until JJ’s wedding dammit
fsc_ralst: She has a girlfriend and is getting married to her
Alsike: Garcia/Morgan is just really cute
Gin Akasarahsmom: I love Garcia’s banter with Morgan… but really with everyone..
Alsike: I think team crossovers would work too. Emily can bring her family on her jaunts.
mayIreadtoday: The Emily/Garcia fic (not mine) for the curious: http://cuspofqueens.livejournal.com/129301.html
sunsetwriter: Garcia could be a big help on her ‘missions’
Alsike: Garcia is a very useful person to have around.
fsc_ralst: And as serial killings can happen anywhere, the whole team can suddenly descend on any fandom
mayIreadtoday: Alsike, that’s why Emma calls her.
Alsike: I enjoyed writing one which was shifted back in time a couple years, and Emily needed assistance, and called Garcia, when she was still a hacker
fsc_ralst: Garcia could be Emily’s Charlie (Charlie’s Angels)
sunsetwriter: And the roll continues!
Alsike: @mayI: And they’re buds
mayIreadtoday: Well, since Garcia sends Emma porn — of course, they are.
Alsike: you understand
Gin Akasarahsmom: I love it when Garcia calls one of the team "my love"
darandkerry_1: lol even
mayIreadtoday: I second Gin
fsc_ralst: Garcia is kinda flirty with everyone, she’s fab
mayIreadtoday: Any thoughts on whether Garcia isn’t actually interested in f’ing just beauty?
Meneldur: Yeah, she’s fun that way
Alsike: She is. (But i have some readers who hate her every time she shows up in one of my fics. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.)
fsc_ralst: I thought everyone loved Garcia?
Gin Akasarahsmom: It grosses me out that she is with that Kevin dude…
Gin Akasarahsmom: she can do SO much better than him
Meneldur: Yeah, everybody love Garcia
Gin Akasarahsmom: Garcia is awesome
fsc_ralst: At least he didn’t shoot her *g*
Gin Akasarahsmom: He’s gross though
Alsike: what low standards we have
Kaqlittle: I’ve always disliked Nicholas Brandon
sunsetwriter: One of the funniest scenes ever was when she answered the phone with "talk dirty to me" and it was Strauss calling
Gin Akasarahsmom: that is probably part of it for me too Kaq.. LOL
fsc_ralst: I like Strauss, she brings the added tension
mayIreadtoday: Anyone have a clip of Garcia saying that to Strauss?
Meneldur: Although thanks to Alsike (again), I would totally dig Garcia/Tessa
sunsetwriter: I’m not sure that was the exact quote, but it was close. The team reactions were priceless!
mayIreadtoday: How can we forget Strauss?! I think she’s so hot. I’d like to see Emily/Strauss
darandkerry_1: I loved that scene!
mayIreadtoday: meneldur, who’s Tessa?
Meneldur: She’s from Xmen
darandkerry_1: I wrote a Emily/Strauss ficlet for a friend.
Meneldur: From the Hellfire club
mayIreadtoday: I just know her by Sage
Meneldur: Back on top, Strauss/Garcia would be fun
fsc_ralst: I can see Strause/Emily’s mum
Meneldur: Oooh, yes
Kaqlittle: yeah me too
mayIreadtoday: darandkerry: So cool! Link again please.
darandkerry_1: oh my, Ralst!
mayIreadtoday: Maybe Strauss and Emily’s mom were together after Emily’s father died
fsc_ralst: @dar – tempt you to write it?
sunsetwriter: wow… squinting… yeah, I think I see it
Alsike: Someone should totally write it.
fsc_ralst: Emily, back from the dead, walks in to her mother’s house, only to find Strauss and elizabeth in an embrase
Meneldur: Emily’s mom was totally in the Hellfire Club (again – Alsike’s fault/suggestion)
Alsike: (I keep on hooking Elizabeth up with Winston Frost – and she could totally do better.)
sunsetwriter: And the roll turns into a hot streak
Alsike: I could see Strauss in the Hellfire club
Meneldur: That would be awesome
Meneldur: Write that – Emma and Emily encountering those two in the Hellfire Club
Alsike: I was just thinking that!
Alsike: hilariously embarrassing for all parties concerned!
Meneldur: Emma is the White Queen, Elizabeth’s reaction would be priceless
mayIreadtoday: I have an AU in my head of Emma being a DC prostitute who is frequently hired by Elizabeth. And then Elizabeth sets up Emma with Emily
Alsike: this is a good AU
Alsike: I believe in it
Meneldur: As would Emily’s at finding Strauss with Elizabeth, and Strauss at beign found
Meneldur: Does this mean you’ll write it?
Alsike: there is a strong possibility
fsc_ralst: And the Lesbian Spy series?
Meneldur: Well, I’ll await it, then
Alsike: So many crossovers…
sunsetwriter: Prentiss sure can make time fly around here…
Meneldur: So much femslashy goodness…
Alsike: and to think I was running out of inspiration
fsc_ralst: Inspiration is good
mayIreadtoday: Glad we could help, Alsike,
Meneldur: Any female Prentiss ahs a +10 sexiness modifier
Alsike: it is my drug of choice
darandkerry_1: Mayl: Can’t find the damn story.
darandkerry_1: Not sure I posted it anywhere. Maybe my journal
Ceridwyn2: hello ladies
mayIreadtoday: Well, if you find it I’d love to read it. I’m mayIreadtoday on LJ
sunsetwriter: Thanks for a fun chat ladies!
thebronzey: *creeps around excitedly*
Alsike: Thanks for hosting us, Ralst!
darandkerry_1: Was a great panel!
fsc_ralst: Thanks to everyone for a great panel
Meneldur: Thsnk you, and thank everybody
mayIreadtoday: This has been awesome!
Meneldur: Great panel all around
Ceridwyn2: heya all
Alsike: thanks for coming, guys.
fsc_ralst: I hope to see many CM crossovers from this and if anyone wants in on the Lesbian Spy series, let me know
ariestess: @Geek :: Oh hush, you!
Meneldur: Have a good time with the panels
Alsike: have a good sleep!
mayIreadtoday: Bye everyone!
Meneldur: Farewell, and until next time