quietheartedfsc: Let’s find out how many names are actually attached to people.
quietheartedfsc: who’s here for graphics?
shaych03: i’m here
grumpybear1031: i’m here
quietheartedfsc: and I’m here.
fsc_ralst: Me – until I get bumped
the_dhamphir: i’m also here
Kayryn: And I am, too
quietheartedfsc: so with a small group like this let’s dispense with raising hands and just have a chat about creating graphics.
quietheartedfsc: grumpy, you want to tell us a bit about how you make the average graphic
je-taime618: me too
quietheartedfsc: which software do you use
fsc_ralst: Okay, with so many different sized monitors etc. these days, how do you decide on the size of graphic/wallpaper to create? Do you just go with fitting your desktop?
grumpybear1031: lately I’ve been working large so it’s usually not too much of an issue. I figure design for the biggest and they can be resized for any desktop
Kayryn: pretty much
grumpybear1031: it’ll also sometimes depend on the source materials though
Kayryn: sometimes for me it depends on the quality of the available pictures
fsc_ralst: Makes sense. I’ve seen some lovely wallpapers but they’ve ended up marooned in the middle of my screen
shaych03: i guess i’m just selfish – i design to fit my current monitor size
quietheartedfsc: There’s also something new with the advent of tablets and phones. That lets you create and design sites and graphics that automatically resize according to screen size.
grumpybear1031: icons are easy 100 x100 don’t have to worry about it lol
shaych03: i’d go blind designing that small
quietheartedfsc: cntl + Z
grumpybear1031: yeah and i work at that size not big then shrunk down
quietheartedfsc: makes it huge to look at
Kayryn: I haven’t done icons since I pretty much left LJ
grumpybear1031: Honestly I’ve been on a kick with the funky desktop views lately
grumpybear1031: haven’t been doing too many icons either. Now and again i get in a modd
quietheartedfsc: I tend to create sets with all the most used sizes for each.
shaych03: and your desktops are awesome, gb. they tell a great story
shaych03: kayryn, i love the stuff you’re doing over at tumblr.
Kayryn: thank you
grumpybear1031: i’ve been in kind of a rut lately with fandom stuff. started doing stuff like matte paintings.
Kayryn: I was just about to say that the kinda stuff that I do is usually not the wallpaper kinda thing, so I just make them in one size and be done with it
shaych03: i had started a wallpaper for idf, but i just got distracted – too many other things to do
mandygirl78: now grumpty, are you doing pure graphics, or photo manipulation?
fsc_ralst: tut tut
grumpybear1031: i do a bit of everything though it’s more graphics
fsc_ralst: Do you have go-to places for your images?
Kayryn: google, lol
quietheartedfsc: There’s a lot time involved in just one graphic.
grumpybear1031: I tend to cap my own stuff though there are a few sights out there with screencaps available
shaych03: i go to grumpy for caps
grumpybear1031: now stuff like the desktops i do is hours of finding just the right angle and cutting them out
grumpybear1031: i’ve created quite a few pieces from scratch for those too
Kayryn: I find that making graphics is kind of like photography. People often assume you just magic it out of thin air in five minutes
fsc_ralst: Do you have a favourite fandom or character to graphic or does it just depend on what you’re into at tht time?
Kayryn: I have two main fandoms at the moment, Warehouse 13 and OUaT, but I do what inspires
grumpybear1031: i think it depends on what i’m into at the time. i do love my Myka/HG though
quietheartedfsc: It depends on what Ralst and Doc want next for me.
shaych03: having been an earwitness to how long it takes gb to put together some of her amazing pieces, i can say for certain that i know it’s not just a “bang, done” thing
grumpybear1031: i’ve been considering some defiance stuff lately had a piece started but somehow lost the folder along with a matte painting I’d been working on for months
Kayryn: do any of you ever get requests that make you just go “really?”
Kayryn: @grumpy – so sorry to hear that
grumpybear1031: no, i don’t get many requests, though I did recently do a final fantasy LJ theme for someone
grumpybear1031: thanks kayryn I was a bit peeved
shaych03: a bit? i think you ranted for half an hour straight
fsc_ralst: Orange is the new Black, Q
grumpybear1031: love love love that show
Kayryn: I don’t get requests that often, but when I do, they’re usually always a het pairing (which is fine), but usually also of a fandom I’ve never even posted about
quietheartedfsc: Almost done watching the first season, ralst. Which pairing? McAndrews, McBond or McWitham?
grumpybear1031: yeah, that happens to me too I’m like okay but you better tell me exactly what you want
shaych03: i had one recently for stahma/kenya but i didn’t want to do anything about it until i saw how that was going to play out on the show
the_dhamphir: OitNB was better than I expected
fsc_ralst: Bomb Girls? McWitham
quietheartedfsc: Oooo, me too. THat’ll be an easy one to concept.
fsc_ralst: Will you be doing any Orange graphics, gb?
mandygirl78: with video/dvd capturing, how much does video quality determine how to process the graphics. Let’s say film quality vs video quality and analog recorded quality vs digital recorded.
grumpybear1031: if I can get caps i likely would
Kayryn: I had someone once requesting me Emily/Hotch and I worked on it for maybe three hours before I figured why I just couldn’t get it right. I changed Hotch into JJ and that was that. 😛
mandygirl78: i had a request for grumpy 2 years back, but she told me she couldn’t do it…
grumpybear1031: lol@ kayryn
quietheartedfsc: mandy, unless it’s just destroyed, with the right software, time, patience and skill, you can clean up a lot of resolution problems.
fsc_ralst: i shall hunt for caps
grumpybear1031: yeah not having good caps makes it tough
mandygirl78: QH – But from what my brother does, he does a lot of video capturing, have a good cap can make a HUGE difference.
grumpybear1031: but then too you might be able to clean it up but it might not be great for a wallpaper. I’ve cleaned up a good number of N&N caps but they’re only really good for icons or banners
mandygirl78: i mean he captures a lot from VHS
quietheartedfsc: Yes, good caps make things a lot easier as well as saving mass amounts on time. That said, I’ve never not tweaked one in some fashion.
grumpybear1031: oh me too I modify everything for example one icon can have forty or more layers
shaych03: gb: layer queen?
fsc_ralst: tumblr seems away with animated graphics right now. Do you dabble?
grumpybear1031: i have
grumpybear1031: i’m not a big tumblr fan though
Kayryn: I’ve tried a bit, but for some reason I find making gifs with PS difficult… So I use another program
mandygirl78: i’m not a big tumblr fan myself.
the_dhamphir: you and me both gb
quietheartedfsc: My bones are too old for tumbling.
quietheartedfsc: I might break something
grumpybear1031: it’s mainly why I haven’t been posting graphic lately no one’s on LJ so why bother
shaych03: i like tumblr mostly for the crafts blogs. i get inspiration from them.
Kayryn: I’m just not that familiar with making gifs as I am with manips, I don’t get new ideas for them that much
the_dhamphir: ahem… there are TOO some us still on LJ, gb… lol
grumpybear1031: and for me it doesn’t seem like as much of a challenge oh let’s take some stock film make it icon sized and there ya go
shaych03: there are some creative gif makers – i’ve seen some from the warehouse fandom that are nifty
grumpybear1031: or whatever sized mostly if anything it’s some lighting changes and that’s it if anything on a gif or maybe some text
mandygirl78: tumblr’s terrible with their tagging.
Kayryn: I need to find a “how to” vif on YT for that
shaych03: there’s a lot of source issues, too – people not crediting creators
shaych03: just reposting
Kayryn: Do NOT get me started on that LOL
mandygirl78: I’m more on deviantArt anyhow
grumpybear1031: not that it doesn’t take time…just that there’s not much “art” to it for me
grumpybear1031: for the most part anyway, there are exceptions
shaych03: kayryn: i’m not as active, so i don’t see it happen, but i hear about it via race
grumpybear1031: yeah I get a bit irritated with that too. I found one of my hg/myka walls has been made into a firefox theme with no credit
Kayryn: @shaych – I had a bad week a while back. Just inside one week I had four different cases of someone reposting my stuff.
grumpybear1031: I think we’ve all dealt with that I did a big post on my LJ about it once
shaych03: there’s someone at DA who tried to take credit for my work, for Pink Rabbit’s work, and i think, for something of GB’s – they’re gone, now, but it was headachy
Kayryn: someone told me to take it as a compliment…
shaych03: is that same someone one of those who thinks graphics is “easy”
Kayryn: lol, no
quietheartedfsc: translation: stealing graphics is easy
grumpybear1031: yup shay gets mad when I forget to sign my stuff
mandygirl78: shay – it’s easier to spot people stealing, and others on DA would point that out, unlike tumblr…
Kayryn: I’ve gotten pretty good at that, rarely ever forget to sign them anymore
grumpybear1031: so on the desktop views I try to sneak it in where no one notices. In a note or a sheet of random paper
shaych03: that’s because it’s your stuff, gb and you deserve the credit for awesomeness
fsc_ralst: where do you all sign?
shaych03: lower corner, almost always. one side or the other.
grumpybear1031: I try to keep it somewhere not too noticeable never the same place twice usually and it’s only my initials
Kayryn: mostly lower right corner
grumpybear1031: I figure if I move it around but keep it small it’s harder to cut it off. I’ve seen a lot of stuff where people just crop the bottom off
Kayryn: I used to do just “K” with a bit of a different font, but now that I’m on tumblr, it’s kind of an unspoken rule you sign your whole ‘name’ and add tumblr at the end
Kayryn: @grumpy, I’ve seen the cropping too, and I’ve even seen cases where the name was just blacked out
grumpybear1031: yeah that too or a crappy attempt with the smudge brush
Kayryn: absedarian sometimes signs her name somewhere in the middle of the graphic… and it’s gotten covered and reposted
shaych03: then there’s the ones who stick your art up with their story saying, “i loved this piece, i don’t know who did it, but it fits my story, so here’s my cover.”
quietheartedfsc: So how do you address those issues?
Kayryn: I’ve had one of those and they didn’t even tell me
fsc_ralst: attack bees!
Kayryn: I found out when someone reblogged the fic with my manip attached
Kayryn: I’m still pissed off
shaych03: i asked them take it down, they did, after telling me it was a compliment
Kayryn: In my case I wrote to the fic writer, very polite and all… and got an answer that cos it was for a ‘submission’ fic, she couldn’t reblog my pic and could only repost it
Kayryn: she didn’t take it down, no credit, no nothing.
Kayryn: she’s hugely popular and I guess she feels she can do that
Kayryn: but there’s a line, though, isn’t there… if they ask you “I really love that graphic and could I please use is as a cover for my fic” you’d most likely say you would, right?
shaych03: so she couldn’t give credit or ASK, FFS?
Kayryn: and it’s still up
Kayryn: with over 1400 notes on tumblr
shaych03: see, this is stuff i don’t see because i don’t follow a load of tumblr stuff. i only see when people i follow repost about it
quietheartedfsc: plus one that says she’s a graphics napper?
Kayryn: while my original post has about 380
shaych03: i kind of dislike tumblr because you can “like” something to death, but actually interacting with the poster is like trying to decipher heiroglyphs – unless you speak icon, it’s crazy difficult to figure out.
shaych03: maybe i’m just old.
quietheartedfsc: nah, it’s the software
Kayryn: @shay, ITA
fsc_ralst: tumblr is pretty but it’s also pretty anonymous in a way
quietheartedfsc: I can program for computer, but have to have my niece set up my not-so-smart phone.
Kayryn: it’s a great way to share stuff like graphics, but it’s not a place where you can discuss stuff like you can on LJ ie
Kayryn: thanks everyone!