the_dhamphir: I’d like to welcome everyone to the Lost Girl Panel.
the_dhamphir: Would the panelists please change their fonts to bold red to look like mine, please?
lonejaguar: I’m coming from mobile and am not able to change the text, unfortunately
the_dhamphir: that’s okay
the_dhamphir: is heathers here?
hbomba: right here
the_dhamphir: ah, there you are
the_dhamphir: would each of you please introduce yourselves please?
lonejaguar: i may type in several short bursts since I’m on mobile, so i apologize in advance!
the_dhamphir: that’s fine, jaguar
hbomba: I’m Heather, I’ve been writing femslash since X-Files and got into Lost Girl at the mid-point of the second season.
lonejaguar: I’m Nic/lonejaguar. fic writer for ages. lover of Lost Girl of course
the_dhamphir: what got you interested in the Lost Girl fandom?
hbomba: tbh it was the women. The canon relationship that I had hoped for in many fandoms before.
Gin Akasarahsmom: fae… the idea of the supernatural series has been overdone, but this seemed to be a new take on it
lonejaguar: I’ve always sought out fandom since I knew it existed. the Lost Girl fandom was so new and so friendly.
lonejaguar: it was easy to fall in love with it!
the_dhamphir: I agree with all of you.
the_dhamphir: What’s been your favorite pairing?
lonejaguar: Oh Bo/Lauren, no contest.
hbomba: I’m a real throw-down Doccubus fan since I started watching
the_dhamphir: so you’re not a Bo/Tamsin shipper?
hbomba: No, I’m more of a bramance fan of the BoTa ship
the_dhamphir: I’ll agree with you. I rather like the bromance feel of their relationship
Gin Akasarahsmom: Bo/Tamsin is interesting.. but I’m Bo/Lauren for sure
lonejaguar: If Bo and Tamsin every slept with each other I wouldn’t shut it off, but not a relationship
the_dhamphir: but the at the same time, there was definitely some sparks flying between them
lonejaguar: yes, the bramance is awesome
the_dhamphir: that’s a good way to put it, jaguar
hbomba: I definitely think they are kindred spirits but not in a sexual way for me at least
the_dhamphir: i think they could have sex, but not a relationship
lonejaguar: Tamsin totally had the hots for Bo, i don’t doubt it.
lonejaguar: has, too
the_dhamphir: what about Kenzi? any subtext going on between Kenzi and Bo?
lonejaguar: Bo’s harder to pin down because sex is in her nature
lonejaguar: Not in my Lost Girl. love Kenzi to pieces, but as everything but lover for Bo
hbomba: Again, I think this is a sisterly love sort of thing
the_dhamphir: i think there were some Kenzi/Bo shippers born after that prison kiss scene, though
the_dhamphir: that was no peck on the lips
lonejaguar: I’m speaking in terms of the show we see on TV not AU fic, though
lonejaguar: ah yes but you can’t sell the cover with a peck on the lips either
lonejaguar: Kenzi’s a matter con after all
lonejaguar: master, not matter
the_dhamphir: that she is
the_dhamphir: does anyone here have thoughts about what’s going to happen in the next season?
lonejaguar: i just think the guards wouldn’t have bought it otherwise. besides, that’s how she passed on the contact
lonejaguar: i try not to lol
lonejaguar: because i usually get riled up for nothing
the_dhamphir: riled up?
lonejaguar: I’ve realized I need to be prepared for it to be nothing like I ever think it will.
hbomba: I have high hopes for it, but specifics, I do not have a clear arc or anything
lonejaguar: I’m always surprised by this show
the_dhamphir: well, what are your hopes heathers?
lonejaguar: I’m excited for it, though, that much I know
the_dhamphir: as long bo doesn’t end up with Dyson i’m cool
the_dhamphir: though ultimately, i’m a bo/lauren shipper, so i do hope they are endgame.
lonejaguar: lol yes
lonejaguar: i hope that too!
lonejaguar: i don’t believe they’re done at all
hbomba: I was hoping to maybe start making sense again–to the end of Karen Beattie, Afghanistan etc and Doccubus reunion for which I am not expecting them to be unimaginably monogamous either
lonejaguar: yeah that would be nice
mandygirl78: yeah, the series won’t be complete for me unless it ends with Bo/Lauren.
Gin Akasarahsmom: they can’t be exclusive though… Bo will starve… Lauren isn’t enough for her… sad to say…
lonejaguar: Lauren is Bo’s lobster that’s all there is
lonejaguar: no they can’t be exclusive of course
mandygirl78: Then Lauren better get used to 3somes for the rest of her life…
lonejaguar: or rather, Bo can’t be exclusive anyway
lonejaguar: they can still be in a relationship though.
the_dhamphir: do you have a favorite episode?
lonejaguar: Confaegen probably made me laugh the most
hbomba: I think 3×01 is something that will always be high up on my favorite list
lonejaguar: Food for Thought made me fangirl the most. still.
lonejaguar: yeah 3.01 was really good
lonejaguar: i loved pretty much 2.06-2.10 at least
the_dhamphir: i have to admit i liked the one where they switched bodies, and the one where they were regressed to teenagers.
lonejaguar: I’d say vexed but i feel like it’s a given
the_dhamphir: if you could meet one of the characters in person, which one would you choose?
lonejaguar: Probably Bo… I’d have the most in common with her
lonejaguar: though i do have an unhealthy love for nerds
hbomba: I gotta go with Vex b/c I don’t imagine there would be a dull moment with him around
lonejaguar: and Lauren and i could talk about history and Egypt.
the_dhamphir: i’ve always said smart is sexy, so… i’d have to go for lauren
hbomba: If you want a female answer tho, I’d say Bo b/c she can be very chill
lonejaguar: i change my answer, Lauren. I’m meeting Lauren
lonejaguar: there’s a good chance they’d be together anyway
the_dhamphir: can you tell us about some of the stories you’ve written?
lonejaguar: personally or together?
the_dhamphir: either… both.
lonejaguar: okay lol
lonejaguar: personally I’ve written a few exploring things I wondered about. like what Bo & Lauren did in the lab during all those appts
the_dhamphir: that sounds interesting
hbomba: I have written quite a few post-eps or missing scenes
lonejaguar: or Lauren finally confronting Dyson about Bo
lonejaguar: or how Lauren got to this point in her life
lonejaguar: i try to challenge myself in that way. to write something i haven’t written before
the_dhamphir: did you take some cues from the show to write the Lauren background stories?
lonejaguar: which makes writing love scenes very challenging
lonejaguar: yeah for sure
lonejaguar: it was confaegen when she mentioned Afghanistan that i started thinking about it
hbomba: I tend to write within canon though there are some glaring exceptions in my repetoire.
lonejaguar: canon is hard to ignore sometimes
hbomba: But then there is our Human Condition series
hbomba: It’s sort of an alternative S4
hbomba: We deal with all those things that niggled at us after the finale
the_dhamphir: where are your fics posted?
lonejaguar: fanfiction.net right now. trying to start up an AO3 one too
hbomba: I have some posted to my tumblr but for the most part they are all at ff.net
lonejaguar: our combined fics are under hbomba
the_dhamphir: and the others are under lonejaguar and heathers?
hbomba: I also take prompts at my tumblr
lonejaguar: the history of Lauren is under lonejaguar on ff.net
hbomba: Nope, heathers isn’t my penname in Lost Girl fandom
the_dhamphir: what is?
hbomba: hbomba or h-bomba
lonejaguar: Heather’s and the combined are under hbomba on ff.net
the_dhamphir: do you have any favorite Lost Girl stories written by other people?
hbomba: Organic Chemistry by hitherto11 (I think that is the pen name) a great Lauren character study with a big helping of sexual revolution
lonejaguar: I’m really enjoying skeeterbug’s first fic Savage Mercies
lonejaguar: really dark and foreboding
lonejaguar: it’s a WIP which I’m not normally into but it’s engrossing
the_dhamphir: what would be the ultimate crossover for you? This fandom and what other?
lonejaguar: oh… orphan black might be cool.
lonejaguar: or X-Files too
the_dhamphir: heh heh… i wrote a short scully/bo fic *G*
lonejaguar: that’s a bit more organic a crossover
lonejaguar: hahaha awesome!
hbomba: There’s this comic by Bender/Maleev called Scarlet about a girl who starts a revolution in Portland, Oregon. I could see Kenzi becoming involved with the cause and Bo would fight the hell they brought down on them
lonejaguar: ohh now that’s cool.
lonejaguar: an anti-hero human revolution
the_dhamphir: this came up in a another panel… and BTVS/LG crossover
the_dhamphir: pairing Bo with Buffy or Faith…. imagining Bo with a slaying… lol
lonejaguar: for sure and OUAT makes sense too. I don’t watch it though
the_dhamphir: and Lauren with Willow maybe
lonejaguar: that would be interesting!
the_dhamphir: I could easily picture Faith trying to out sex a succubus… lol
the_dhamphir: and can imagine the chi of a slayer?!
the_dhamphir: if anyone else has a question, don’t be shy
the_dhamphir: are there any stories you’re currently working on?
the_dhamphir: anything you’d be willing to share with us?
hbomba: We are currently working on part 3 of our trilogy
lonejaguar: planning planning planning
the_dhamphir: what is your trilogy?
hbomba: Pretty excited about what we have blocked out for scenes so far but it’s a slower process than the last 2
lonejaguar: The Human Condition and Inhuman Conditions are the first two
hbomba: pt 1 http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9276593/1/The-Human-Condition
the_dhamphir: and what’s the title of part 3?
hbomba: pt 2 http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9357387/1/Inhuman-Conditions
lonejaguar: a look at Light Fae, Dark Fae, and Human views
lonejaguar: not sure of a title for part 3 yet
the_dhamphir: that’s cool
lonejaguar: it has to be better than the last two that’s the problem
lonejaguar: and i readily liked them too so it’s a challenge!
hbomba: It’s a bit early to call it our opus but it’s def the biggest thing either of us have written
the_dhamphir: I can understand that feeling
the_dhamphir: do you always plot things out in advance?
lonejaguar: i always do
hbomba: with a story this big we had to just to keep it all straight in our heads.
hbomba: I usually write one-shots so rarely do I plan it out.
lonejaguar: for continuity’s sake
lonejaguar: plus it’s hard to write the middle when you don’t know where you’re going
the_dhamphir: by big, do you mean really long?
lonejaguar: long for us!
lonejaguar: it’s not 50 parts or anything
lonejaguar: maybe combining all three it would be
the_dhamphir: it’s not the number of parts/chapters, it’s the total number of words… lol
lonejaguar: fair enough!
minarobins: ^I agree with that
lonejaguar: each were between 20 and 25k
minarobins: Per chapter O_O
the_dhamphir: parts? or stories?
minarobins: *Is always floored by writers that write epics*
lonejaguar: no words per story lol
the_dhamphir: that’s still a healthy lengthed story
lonejaguar: thanks it’s a wonder to me still
lonejaguar: I’ve been sitting on 500 of 1000 words and i can’t finish it lol
minarobins: May I just ask, how do you keep going. I mean when I write long anythings at all I always have to reread the whole thing because I’ve forgotten what in the world I’ve done
the_dhamphir: I’ve found the longer I write (as in as the years pass) the longer my stories seem to be getting.
lonejaguar: that’s a good point
minarobins: I found that true as well
lonejaguar: i always read from beginning to end at least twice when i write
lonejaguar: to make sure it all makes sense together
minarobins: There was some point in time when my stories only ever hit a couple hundred and then I get all proud of myself and now it’s at 3kish but gosh, can’t compare to 20k O_O
lonejaguar: i print out hard copies and edit that way too several times
minarobins: That’s what I do too now, I always reread and fix any grammatical errors each reach through
the_dhamphir: I do. I’m in the middle of long fic now. and I’ve reread it more than once already
lonejaguar: it definitely depends on the scope of your story though
hbomba: lonejaguar is a fierce editor as well.
minarobins: Do you find it easier to have a printed copy. I’m just horrified that someone’s going to find it
lonejaguar: some stories don’t need that many words
minarobins: I personally find one shots the easiest. whenever I expand, things get a little odd
hbomba: printed for sure. plus there’s more satisfaction marking it all up.
lonejaguar: yes I’m a big believer in hard copies
lonejaguar: i catch things i don’t catch on the computer
minarobins: hbomba: I agree with that entirely, but what if someone Finds it
lonejaguar: i usually read the story out loud too. you’ll catch other things that way too
minarobins: I can just see myself leaving something around work
the_dhamphir: i don’t… but i do sent it to my beta’s and they mark it all up… lol
lonejaguar: as long as someone does! lol
minarobins: I always read my work outloud because when you read normally you tend to correct your own mistakes, or just set it aside for a time
hbomba: For us it’s not a problem b/c we are married so there is nobody to find it but I say be proud. you created something.
lonejaguar: Mina, I’ve decided recently not to be ashamed of fic writing
lonejaguar: it’s new and working so far
minarobins: I’ve never been ashamed of it, in the summer time I just live with my parents. Let us not venture into that plane of horror. When I’m living with my roommates I leave random femslash notes everywhere
lonejaguar: lol ok
hbomba: lol awesome
minarobins: There’s like sticky notes on the fridge that just say. “would ice cream be too cold to put there?”
lonejaguar: my mom actually read my Lauren story
minarobins: And my two guy roommates are just like O_O
lonejaguar: totality unsolicited
lonejaguar: she sent me a text telling me how she didn’t understand all of it, but she really loved it.
lonejaguar: and loves Lauren lol
minarobins: Your mom is all kinds of awesome
lonejaguar: it’s the fae stuff that confused her
minarobins: Mythology use to be my favourite thing ever so when Lost girl came out I flipped a crazy amount of happy
lonejaguar: oh me too
lonejaguar: i still bore my wife with documentaries
minarobins: Gosh documentaries are the best though!
minarobins: I think what’s the best about Lost Girl is that everyone is actually very chill
minarobins: Other than humans being the bane of all evil
minarobins: All the fae just accept the ever living everything out of everyone
lonejaguar: lol yeah, but i love that dynamic in lost girl
lonejaguar: the human-fae thing is so rich with drama
the_dhamphir: so do i
minarobins: Though some of the fae are just hilarious
minarobins: Really a rabbitcat?
lonejaguar: mythology is weird man
minarobins: Indeed it quite is
the_dhamphir: i think lost girl and grimm would be a natural crossover
minarobins: I’ve actually never watched Grimm
minarobins: Supernatural and lost girl would also possibly work
lonejaguar: me either but it makes fae the bad guys yes?
the_dhamphir: i couldn’t get past the first episode of SPN
the_dhamphir: not all them on Grimm are bad guys
lonejaguar: ah ok
the_dhamphir: there are good guys and bad guys
the_dhamphir: and some are ambiguous
minarobins: What is the premise for Grimm, is it set in current time ?
minarobins: And a hunter type kind of thing then?
the_dhamphir: the main character finds out he’s grim when his aunt (also a grim,) is killed
minarobins: Umm, and Grimm I’m guessing means he’s a hunter?
the_dhamphir: yeah. but he turns out to not be a kill all of them on sight grimm
the_dhamphir: and makes friends with a werewolf
the_dhamphir: or bludbaden as it’s called on the show
the_dhamphir: all but the current season (i think) are on netflix
the_dhamphir: he actually makes friend with a number of them creatures… who are very wary of him at first
the_dhamphir: because they grew up with horror stories of the grimms killing their kind on sight
minarobins: Oh man. I kinda want to watch it now :<
minarobins: Women, give me some women characters
the_dhamphir: check it out on netflix
the_dhamphir: there’s his gf and the women/creature who runs the apothecary shop
minarobins: lol, I shall slash them in my mind
the_dhamphir: some “bad guy” female creatures too
the_dhamphir: I can easily imagine a crossover between those shows
the_dhamphir: maybe someone will get inspired to write one
minarobins: I think out of all the powers in Lost Girl, Vex probably has the most useful ability
lonejaguar: unless he’s tied up
minarobins: Well until he gets faepowersdysfuntion
minarobins: They have some weird levels of power in that show
minarobins: I mean Dyson is more powerful when he’s a wolf than when he’s a wolf
minarobins: I kinda expected him to be bigger O_o
lonejaguar: i also wonder how that helps vex survive. feeding off controlling people?
minarobins: well how would Dyson feed off humans
minarobins: I suppose not all Fae feed on humans?
lonejaguar: the things we gloss over
minarobins: I mean vex could get off on controlling people *suspicious face*
the_dhamphir: not all fae do
minarobins: Most are capable of it though. And in all actuality Bo says that Fae taste better than humans anyways
the_dhamphir: Do you have any idea when you’re opus will be ready for the masses to read?
lonejaguar: before S4 starts ideally. before the playing field changes
the_dhamphir: jaguar and heathers conclusion to their trilogy
the_dhamphir: I look forward to it.
lonejaguar: me too!
hbomba: thank you
lonejaguar: it’s shaping up will so far
lonejaguar: well, too
minarobins: Sometimes I wonder if people write their long stories all in one go and then edits through it all
lonejaguar: i edit as i go. i don’t always have the mojo to write, so that’s when I’ll read what we have in hopes of sparking something
the_dhamphir: yeah, same here, jaguar
lonejaguar: but we always have major plot points figured out
the_dhamphir: i’ve sometimes set something aside for months and then gone back to it
hbomba: we write complete stories before we post the parts so the editing is done informally along the way and in a few waves when it is finished
minarobins: I have plot points I wish to reach and then sometimes I write a smut scene and realize I have no way of reaching it
lonejaguar: reaching what? the plot point afterwards?
lonejaguar: or reaching the sex?
minarobins: I have the sex
minarobins: but then I can’t reach it
minarobins: because as the story progressed the things that happen in the sex scene nolong apply
lonejaguar: you could rewrite it?
lonejaguar: i mean there are scenes ive written and loved and had to scrap
minarobins: I could. I could
minarobins: Perhaps I’ll try tonight
the_dhamphir: i hate when that happens, mina
lonejaguar: there first scene of A Christmas Faeble was a scene that sat on my computer for months
lonejaguar: the, too
lonejaguar: it sucks to have to, but you can probably use some of it at least
the_dhamphir: there’s about 8 minutes left, ladies
minarobins: Just a question, since people abhor epithets so much, do you guys have any tips on writing a scene with a four characters without overdrowning in their names
minarobins: I could possibly
lonejaguar: i try not to go too crazy on either
lonejaguar: male and female?
minarobins: all females
lonejaguar: oh dear
minarobins: It’s just an assortment of
hbomba: I use mannerisms, physical attributes and alternate titles to help break up the name frenzy
minarobins: It’s a 7k smut scene. There’s only so much I can do with their attributes
minarobins: With four people there’s too much happening
minarobins: *Throws my hands in the air*
lonejaguar: also try to separate actions with descriptions and dialogue
minarobins: Check on that tjaguar
lonejaguar: bit if they’re all naked and all in one spot, boy howdy
lonejaguar: but, too
lonejaguar: hair color, fae species?
the_dhamphir: I want to thank lonejaguar and heathers (hbomba) for being our panelists today and to everyone else for being here.
minarobins: It’s not fae
lonejaguar: thanks so much!
minarobins: well it kinda is
minarobins: cheers to heather and jaguar. Adopt us all
minarobins: It’s more like four shifters
michelle_2011: thank you for the panel
lonejaguar: hit me up on the twitter if you have any others questions
minarobins: Thank you for hosting!
minarobins: Do you have tumbr because I do not have Jaguar
hbomba: A commune coming in the spring 2014 when Lost Girl goes on hiatus again
minarobins: I DO NOT HAVE JAGUAR
hbomba: my tumblr is h-bomba.tumblr.com
lonejaguar: tumblr = eatyourcheckers if you have that?
hbomba: thanks for having us everyone
lonejaguar: thanks again!
minarobins: All the thank yous